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Politics : Bush-The Mastermind behind 9/11? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Don Earl who wrote (3153)9/29/2003 1:53:41 AM
From: Skywatcher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039
 
Here's where a LOT of dollars from US coffers is going.....right to the heart of the conflict....the constant irritant and complete roadblock to peace:
Jewish Settlements' Cost Estimated at $560 Million
The annual expenditure is for the benefit of 220,000 settlers, an Israeli newspaper says.

From Associated Press

JERUSALEM — The Israeli government spends at least $560 million a year
on subsidies, infrastructure and education for 220,000 Jewish settlers living in
the West Bank and Gaza Strip, the Israeli daily Haaretz said Tuesday.

The figure does not include military spending.

Since capturing the West
Bank and Gaza in 1967,
Israel has spent at least
$10.1 billion on
settlements, Haaretz
said.

Successive Israeli
governments have
refused to disclose how
much they spend on
settlements. Haaretz said
it compiled the figure
after three months of
research, including
interviews with dozens of experts and government
officials.

The settlements are seen as one barrier to reaching a peace agreement between Palestinians and
Israelis. Palestinians say Israel uses the settlements to grab land that they claim for a Palestinian state.

The number of Israeli settlers living in the West Bank and Gaza Strip hit 220,000 last year, an increase
of 5.7% from 2001, according to a report released Tuesday by Israel's Central Bureau of Statistics.

The settlers' growth rate far outstripped the total Israeli growth rate of 1.6% and was more than double
the growth rate in any region of Israel, according to the report.

Nearly 5,000 of the 12,000 new settlers moved into the settlements from Israel or other countries. The
remainder of the growth was attributed to births.

CC



To: Don Earl who wrote (3153)9/29/2003 2:22:08 PM
From: MSI  Respond to of 20039
 
Al Martin meets regularly with Senators and Congressmen, and has quite a bit of credibility.

OTOH, he also floats rumors that he believes to be true, but are not verified, even to him, but have the benefit of sensationalism. The 70 dead agents item may be one of those.

The sensationalism serves the twin purpose of (a) selling his books, subscription service and consulting and (b) getting across the viciousness of this criminal cabal, which he is has expertise on, and and helps break the media conditioning we're subjected to 24x7.

I like Martin, he's the ONLY guy who even touches on the profiteering and fraud possibilities that go on, and are inevitable with a secretive and all-powerful central gov't. He's not easily directly available but I made the effort to correspond with his publisher Uri Dowbenko, who is very responsive, and a smart guy himself.

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some links

A recent show:
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Sat, August 30, 8PM Eastern

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* Al Martin Raw.
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* Conspiracy Planet
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* Steamshovel Press.
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* Conspiracy Digest.
Real News That Connects the Dots...
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To: Don Earl who wrote (3153)9/29/2003 6:22:48 PM
From: Sidney Reilly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039
 
That's outrageous. Nazi ties in the Bush Administration too. What next. "one fodder unit". That's what Bush thinks of us.



To: Don Earl who wrote (3153)9/29/2003 7:47:22 PM
From: MSI  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20039
 
Re: Al Martin comments --

"Karl Rove is, in fact, the grandson of Karl Heinz
> Roverer, the gauleiter of Mecklenburg, who was also a partner and
> senior engineer of Roverer Sud-Deutche Ingenieurbüro AG. They built
> Birchenau, the concentration camp in Nazi Germany."

Interesting -- I'll check it out in Lee's book, "The Beast Reawakens"

deaths of more than 70 CIA assets overseas

I'll send an email to Al's publisher on what verifications there are on that

> These investigations could not have possibly been made without at
> least the tacit acquiescence of Secretary of State Colin Powell


I'll ask about that also



To: Don Earl who wrote (3153)9/29/2003 7:51:25 PM
From: MSI  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 20039
 
GET DUAL CITIZENSHIP PARASITES OUT OF WASHINGTON

Karl Rove, it should be noted, is a dual citizen of the United States and Germany.

If true, he should be immediately fired, then investigated for conflicts and subversion.

Also, ANY OTHER DUAL CITIZENSHIP f*krs should be forced to answer the question in public, such as WOLFOWITZ, PERLE et al. with their suspected citizenship of Israel, influencing American policy. That goes for anyone getting a US paycheck for service to their country.



To: Don Earl who wrote (3153)9/29/2003 8:44:31 PM
From: MSI  Respond to of 20039
 
Re: White House treason -- I think Al Martin may have something

"Even though I'm a tranquil guy now at this stage of my life, I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view, the most insidious of traitors."
-- George Herbert Walker Bush, 1999


From Wm Pitt:

truthout.org

Rove was fired from the 1992 Bush Sr. campaign for trashing Robert Mosbacher, Jr., who was the chief fundraiser for the campaign and an avowed Bush loyalist. Rove accomplished this trashing of Mosbacher by planting a negative story with columnist Bob Novak. The campaign figured out that Karl had done the dirty deed, and he was given his walking papers.

Demonstrably, Rove is back in the saddle again. The January 2003 edition of Esquire magazine carried an article by Ron Suskind which quoted comments from John DiIulio, a domestic policy advisor to the White House who had just retired from his post. On October 24, DiIulio had sent a letter to Suskind describing what he had seen while working for the Bush administration. The meat of the letter described an administration far, far more interested in raw political triangulation and ruthless spin than in actual policy and government functionality. Some excerpts from DiIulio's letter:

"Some are inclined to blame the high political-to-policy ratios of this administration on Karl Rove...some staff members, senior and junior, are awed and cowed by Karl's real or perceived powers. They self-censor lots for fear of upsetting him, and, in turn, few of the president's top people routinely tell the president what they really think if they think that Karl will be brought up short in the bargain. Karl is enormously powerful, maybe the single most powerful person in the modern, post-Hoover era ever to occupy a political advisor post near the Oval Office."

The facts of this story are singularly grotesque. Taken at the top layer, you have a White House that appears perfectly willing to go after the family members of its critics. Valerie Plame's career is destroyed, period. The act itself displays a level of viciousness that is dangerous to the functioning of this, or any, democracy.

Peel the second layer and you discover the rank illegality of it all. Section 421 of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982 reads as follows:

"Whoever, having or having had authorized access to classified information that identifies a covert agent, intentionally discloses any information identifying such covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such covert agent and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent's intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both."
The third layer is where the darkness truly lurks, and where the deadly importance of this situation lies. Valerie Plame was not simply an analyst or a data cruncher. She was an operative running a network dedicated to tracking any person or nation that might try to give weapons of mass destruction to terrorists. That sentence deserves to be written twice. She was an operative running a network dedicated to tracking any person or nation that might try to give weapons of mass destruction to terrorists.

The Bush administration pushed very hard the idea that America is in danger from WMDs being placed into the hands of terrorists. This was one of the central arguments behind the war in Iraq. Yet in order to protect Bush's political standing, a couple of "administration officials" blew Valerie Plame, and by proxy her network, completely out of the water in an attempt to shut her husband up. In short, in order to protect Bush from the ramifications of using fake evidence to support his war, this White House destroyed an intelligence network that was protecting us from the threat posed by chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons.

We are less safe now that Valerie Plame is no longer performing this vital task, and the members of her network are in mortal danger of being revealed and destroyed. Beyond that, we are facing a level of hypocrisy that shatters any and all previously known boundaries. This administration ginned up a war in Iraq based upon manufactured evidence and wildly overstated threats, all of which was painted over with rhetoric about defending the country from terrorists and weapons of mass destruction. The fate of Valerie Plame, and her network, shows without doubt that the moral standing of this administration is as empty as Saddam Hussein's WMD cache.

In Ambassador Wilson's words, "Naming her this way would have compromised every operation, every relationship, every network with which she had been associated in her entire career. This is the stuff of Kim Philby and Aldrich Ames."

The current spin from administration defenders within and without the mainstream media is that Valerie Plame was only an analyst, and not an operative. This, somehow, is supposed to lessen the blow of an administration willing to attack the families of its critics. Yet the characterization of Plame as an analyst is factually incorrect. For one, Robert Novak himself indicated that she was an operative in the original report that birthed this scandal. "Wilson never worked for the CIA," wrote Novak, "but his wife, Valerie Plame, is an Agency operative on weapons of mass destruction."

Ray McGovern, who was for 27-years a senior analyst for the CIA, further confirms the status of Plame within the CIA. "I know Joseph Wilson well enough to know," said McGovern in a telephone conversation we had today, "that his wife was in fact a deep cover operative running a network of informants on what is supposedly this administration's first-priority issue: Weapons of mass destruction."

McGovern further elaborated on the damage done when such an agent has their cover blown. "This causes a great deal of damage," said McGovern. "These kinds of networks take ten years to develop. The reason why they operate under deep cover is that the only people who have access to the kind of data we need cannot be associated in any way with the American intelligence community. Our operatives live a lie to maintain these networks, and do so out of patriotism. When they get blown, the operatives themselves are in physical danger. The people they recruit are also in physical danger, because foreign intelligence services can make the connections and find them. Operatives like Valerie Plame are real patriots."

Mr. Rove has done this kind of thing before, specifically using Robert Novak in that one notable attempt to cut down Mosbacher. Rove is a disciple of the undisputed heavyweight champion of political assassins, Lee Atwater, and has often reached into a deep bag of dirty tricks to accomplish his political ends. He knows no ideology beyond power, and has no bones about using it to wreak havoc on anyone who gets in his crosshairs. The Esquire article about DiIulio finds him recounting a singular Rove moment, as he overheard a conversation happening in another room: "Inside, Rove was talking to an aide about some political stratagem in some state that had gone awry and a political operative who had displeased him. I paid it no mind and reviewed a jotted list of questions I hoped to ask. But after a moment, it was like ignoring a tornado flinging parked cars. 'We will fuck him. Do you hear me? We will fuck him. We will ruin him. Like no one has ever fucked him!'"

Guess who was doing the cursing and threatening.

One last bit of inside baseball. When the Niger scandal erupted, the Bush administration went out of its way to blame the CIA for the mess, despite the fact that the CIA, along with the entire intelligence community, had been cut out of the loop by Don Rumsfeld's Office of Special Plans. The OSP, and its pet Iraqi Ahmad Chalabi, became the source for all of the information regarding Iraq's weapons capabilities, and a number of intelligence insiders have publicly blamed that group for the preponderance of highly erroneous data about Iraq. For the Bush administration to completely usurp the CIA by depending solely on data manufactured by the Office of Special Plans, and then to turn around and blame CIA when the OSPs data did not turn out to be true, is as insane as it is laughable. Yet this is what they have done. The CIA's calling for this investigation is nothing more or less than the Agency defending itself, proving out the oft-repeated warning that one scapegoats the CIA at their mortal peril.

Also, the fact that this data came to the Washington post from a White House official means that another Deep Throat may have just been born.

The White House has denied the allegation, and promises a full investigation. A great many people find it laughable to believe this White House is capable of investigating itself, and are demanding an independent investigation. A quick look at the White House telephone logs will reveal who called whom, and when. It may well be the case that Rove was not involved; there are several administration officials - Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle, Rice, Card - along with a constellation of administration associates and media mouthpieces, who had a vested interest in shutting Ambassador Wilson's mouth. The White House phone logs will be revelatory. If this administration fails to hand those logs over, they will stand in taint of high treason.

J'accuse.

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William Rivers Pitt is the Managing Editor of truthout.org. He is a New York Times and international best-selling author of three books - "War On Iraq," available from Context Books, "The Greatest Sedition is Silence," available from Pluto Press, and "Our Flag, Too: The Paradox of Patriotism," available in August from Context