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To: FaultLine who wrote (10023)9/30/2003 2:49:27 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793778
 
"Here comes another one, just like the other ones." Looks like the Government is not bothering with PC. I wish the media would get over it.
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Guantánamo Bay Aide Is Arrested at Boston Airport
By TERENCE NEILAN

A naturalized American of Egyptian descent who works at a United States prison camp for captured militants at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, has been arrested in Boston after he was found to be in possession of what appeared to be classified information, the Department of Homeland Security said today.

The arrested man, Ahmed Mehalba, arrived at Logan Airport on Monday on a flight from Cairo by way of Milan.

Homeland Security officers from Customs and Border Protection began a routine examination of Mr. Mehalba in Boston and found compact discs in his baggage, the department said in a statement. One of the discs contained the apparently classified information, the department added.

Agents from Immigration and Customs Enforcement of the Department of Homeland Security and the Boston Joint Terrorism Task Force then arrested Mr. Mehalba.

Authorization for the arrest was given by the United States Attorney's Office in Boston, the department said.

A press officer for the attorney's office, Christina Sterling, said Mr. Mehalba would appear in court in Boston this afternoon. The charges are under seal until after the hearing.

Mr. Mehalba, who was described as a contract linguist, both translating and interpreting, at Guantánamo Bay, is the third person detained recently in an investigation of suspected espionage at the camp.

Last week another linguist at the camp, Senior Airman Ahmad I. al-Halabi, was charged with espionage and passing military secrets to Syria, the Pentagon said. A military lawyer for Airman al-Halabi, Maj. Kim E. London, disputed the military's accusations.

An Islamic chaplain in the Army, Capt. James J. Yee, also known as Youssef Yee, was taken into custody on Sept. 10 at a naval air station in Jacksonville, Fla., but he has yet to be charged. Captain Yee, also known as Youssef Yee, is being held at the Navy brig in Charleston, S.C., under suspicion that he, too, was spying for Syria at Guantánamo Bay. The Army is investigating his activities at the camp, military officials said.

Pentagon officials said last week that it was likely that Airman al-Halabi and Captain Yee knew each other, given the camp's small size and the need for Arabic-speaking interpreters in many of the camp's daily operations.

Captain Yee, a 1990 graduate of West Point who converted to Islam, was one of the few camp officials to have unrestricted access to prisoners, but at times he used an interpreter, the authorities said. It was unclear whether the arrests were related.
nytimes.com



To: FaultLine who wrote (10023)9/30/2003 4:39:17 PM
From: Snowshoe  Respond to of 793778
 
where we talk about reality

Isn't metaphysical certitude amazing! <g>

snowshoe@whereshouldicamptonight?.com



To: FaultLine who wrote (10023)10/1/2003 6:28:44 AM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793778
 
This "Times" poll is definitive. Don Meredith is singing. The party's over. I think the Indian money was too much for people to stomach.
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THE TIMES POLL

Majority Now Favors Recall; Schwarzenegger Leads Rivals
Davis loses ground with key voters. For the first time, the actor outpaces all other candidates as he makes double-digit gains among the GOP, independents, women.
By Michael Finnegan
Times Staff Writer

October 1, 2003

A solid majority of likely voters favors removing Gov. Gray Davis from office in the recall election Tuesday, and Arnold Schwarzenegger has surged ahead of his rivals in the race to succeed him, according to a new Los Angeles Times poll.

By 56% to 42%, likely voters support ousting the Democratic incumbent, a sign that Davis has lost ground in the closing phase of his battle for political survival. Support for Davis has slipped among key parts of his political base — Democrats, women, moderates and liberals among them — since the last Times poll in early September found 50% for the recall and 47% against it.

Summing up the view of many voters was poll respondent Gladys Taub, a North Hills Democrat exasperated by the state's giant budget shortfalls.

"Gov. Davis has been doing a terrible job, and I just want to get rid of him," the 62-year-old paralegal, who plans to vote for Schwarzenegger, said in a follow-up interview. "Look at the state our state is in. If I ran my home that way, spending a whole lot more money than I was taking in, I'd wind up bankrupt. I'd wind up on the streets."

Tapping that public anger is Schwarzenegger, whose campaign against "business-as-usual politics in Sacramento" has boosted his popularity as voters weigh alternatives to Davis. The Republican actor is favored by 40% of likely voters, followed by Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante, a Democrat, with 32%, and state Sen. Tom McClintock (R-Thousand Oaks) with 15%.

The shift in voter support toward Schwarzenegger is dramatic: Since the last Times poll, he has made double-digit gains among Republicans, independents, whites, senior citizens, women and other major voting blocs. The early September poll had Bustamante in the lead with 30%, followed by Schwarzenegger at 25% and McClintock at 18%. Bustamante had also led Schwarzenegger in an August poll, 35% to 22%.

Over the last few weeks, several events have occurred that may have caused voters to shift their positions. Schwarzenegger has run millions of dollars in television advertising, and the major candidates held a televised debate that roughly two-thirds of likely voters in the poll said they watched.

Voters who were dissatisfied with Davis — and with career politicians in general — seemed to have concluded that Schwarzenegger was a viable option, said Susan Pinkus, director of The Times Poll. "If you're going to vote for the recall, you have to have somebody in mind to replace the governor," she said. "Before the debate, there was no one that they felt they could vote for."

Schwarzenegger's emergence as front-runner in the replacement race comes as he and Davis are each framing the election — with growing acrimony — as a two-man contest.

Each is running TV spots attacking the other. Schwarzenegger accuses Davis of mismanagement and calls on voters to dump him. Davis defends his stewardship of California and tries to raise doubts about Schwarzenegger's fitness for public office.

A key part of Davis' strategy is to persuade recall supporters to switch their votes from yes to no for fear of a Schwarzenegger victory. The poll shows the narrow reach of that approach: 6% of recall backers said they might switch their vote if it looked like Schwarzenegger would win.

Angela Rodriguez, 29, a Democrat and a technology company manager from Bakersfield, is one of them. She plans to vote for Bustamante, but prefers Davis to Schwarzenegger. So if it looks like the Republican will win, she will switch her vote on the recall.

"He's a good actor, but that's not good enough," she said. Davis, she added, "can't screw up anything more than he's already screwed it up."

Overall, the poll found that the central theme of Schwarzenegger's candidacy had struck a chord with likely voters: Rather than finding him frightening, they see him as the candidate most apt to curb the influence of special interests in Sacramento.

"I look at him as maybe like a Kennedy, where he really wants to do something good, because he's not in it for the money," said Jim Rego, 58, a Castro Valley independent who owns a gas station outside Oakland.

Rego faults Davis for the state budget mess and sees Schwarzenegger as "a guy who can run a business, balance the books." He typically votes for Democrats; Schwarzenegger will be the first exception since Rego went for Ross Perot in the 1992 presidential race.

"I was disgusted with the way the country was going then; we're worse off now than we were then," he said.

Although Schwarzenegger has accepted campaign money from donors with business before the governor's office — despite a pledge not to do so — most likely voters say that would make no difference in whether they would vote for him.

Many likely voters do harbor reservations about the former champion bodybuilder. Only 8% think Schwarzenegger has the best experience for the job of governor, well behind Davis, McClintock and Bustamante. Also, only 8% believe that Schwarzenegger seemed more knowledgeable than his opponents in last week's debate in Sacramento.

But that seemed to matter less than other qualities. A broad swath of voters see in Schwarzenegger an aptitude they have found lacking in Davis since the 2001 energy crisis: leadership. On the question of who would be a strong leader, Schwarzenegger is ahead with 36%, followed by McClintock at 21%, Davis at 18% and Bustamante at 16%.

"He's not going to be pushed around by people," said nurse practitioner Karen Keller, 62, a Republican from Lakewood. Since the last Times poll, a wave of independent voters has shifted toward Schwarzenegger, moving away from both Bustamante and, more decisively, McClintock.

While Schwarzenegger's support among independents has rocketed from 14% to 44%, McClintock's has plunged from 28% to 8%. Bustamante's has dropped slightly, from 24% to 21%. Bustamante made up for that loss by gaining some support among Democrats.

The Times Poll, supervised by Pinkus, interviewed 1,982 adults statewide Sept. 25-29. Among them were 1,496 registered voters, including 815 deemed likely to vote in the recall election. The margin of sampling error among likely voters is plus or minus 3 percentage points for the full sample; it is larger for subgroups.

For Davis, a key challenge in the final days of the race is to bolster support among Democrats. Despite his aggressive efforts to woo union members, Latinos and other traditional blocs of the party, the survey found 27% of Democrats supporting the recall, up from 19% in the last poll.

Among liberal Democrats, support for the recall grew from 1-in-10 to 2-in-10. Among moderate Democrats, support climbed from 30% early last month to 35%. Union members, a key to Davis' success in prior elections, also tilted further in favor of the recall, from 51% in the last poll to 54% in the most recent.

Other signs of trouble for Davis: 54% of women back the recall; early last month, 54% of women opposed it. Support for the recall also grew among the elderly, who typically turn out to vote in large numbers. While voters 65 and older were evenly split on the recall in the last poll, they now favor it, 54% to 46%. Even Los Angeles County voters, crucial to the success of any Democrat in a statewide election, have swung in favor of the recall, 53% to 46%. Early last month, they opposed it, 58% to 38%.

Support for the recall also remains overwhelming among Republicans and conservatives: nearly nine in 10 of each favor the governor's ouster. Among whites — more than two-thirds of the electorate — 62% favor the recall.

"I just pray that guy gets thrown out on his ear, because he is the kiss of death for this state, there is no question," said former lumber company owner Tom Skuse, 50, a Rancho Cucamonga Republican.

Among Skuse's biggest complaints is the governor's approval of a bill to give driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.

"We're going to hand out licenses to people who can't even speak English," he said. "Come on. There's something wrong here. You don't think that was a vote-buying deal?"

Davis resisted signing the measure last year, citing public-safety concerns. But after approving it this year, he has used it as the cornerstone of his appeals to Latino voters, most recently in a Spanish-language television ad he started running Tuesday.

Yet the poll suggests that the tactic may have backfired.

Among likely voters, more than three out of five oppose the driver's license bill. Moreover, 43% of likely voters say a candidate's support for it would make them less likely to vote for that person, although 41% say it would make no difference.

Latinos are now split on the recall, 49% for it and 48% against, which represents a slight movement on behalf of the governor.

Schwarzenegger, who opposes the driver's license measure, has sought to use the issue against Davis, which may account for a slight slide among the Republican's Latino support — to roughly one in four voters. McClintock has also spoken out against the measure. Bustamante supports it.

With the license controversy raging, immigration has risen to be the fourth most important problem that likely voters say the governor should address. First is the budget; second, the economy; and third, education.

"I'm tired of subsidizing illegals," said Burbank Democrat Denise Cochran, 43, an acting teacher who supports the recall and sees the driver's license law as "incredibly dangerous."

"I'm paying through the nose," she said. "I'm tired of it. All these schools we're building are because the illegals have their children here. I want their children to be educated, but somebody has to pay these bills."

For Bustamante, the poll results are bleak. Only 41% have a favorable impression of him, while 58% view Schwarzenegger favorably and 62% see McClintock in a positive light.

Bustamante's millions of dollars in campaign donations from casino-owning tribes — the subject of an unfavorable court ruling and a host of Schwarzenegger ads — appear to have damaged his public image. Four in 10 voters say those contributions make them less likely to vote for Bustamante, although 54% say they make no difference.

Oakland Democrat Lark Coryell, 50, a brand-identity consultant, said Bustamante seems to offer little improvement over Davis. "They both strike me as very slippery," she said.

For McClintock, the poll shows widespread admiration but erosion nonetheless. He is well ahead of Schwarzenegger and Bustamante on whether he has the character and integrity to be governor; three out of four voters say that he does. Voters say McClintock did the best job in the Sacramento debate.

But nearly half of likely voters say McClintock is too conservative to have a realistic chance of winning. Moreover, Schwarzenegger, a moderate, has picked off much of McClintock's base of support among conservative Republicans. As McClintock's support in that group dropped from 40% to 31%, Schwarzenegger's jumped from 45% to 64%.

That shift appears to reflect a sentiment, shared by the state GOP establishment, that a Republican governor who supports legal abortion, gay rights and gun control — anathema to many party loyalists — is still preferable to a Democrat.

"My preference is McClintock," said Keller, who cited his "pro-life" stand as evidence that he shares her values. "But I understand if the vote is split, we can get something worse, like Bustamante, which would be as bad as Gray or maybe worse."

She plans to vote for Schwarzenegger.

Jill Darling Richardson, associate director of The Times Poll, and Claudia Vaughn, the poll's data management supervisor, contributed to this report.

latimes.com



To: FaultLine who wrote (10023)10/2/2003 2:46:13 AM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793778
 
Confessions of a Pundit-Turned-Player
How I tried to set up a Davis-Schwarzenegger debate
by Bill Bradley LA WEEKLY

Governor Gray Davis, looking at his dismal poll numbers, decided three weeks ago that his best shot at staving off the recall would be to debate his leading opponent, Arnold Schwarzenegger. I played a major role in trying to set up such a debate. Only now, after Davis went public with his challenge, am I free to talk about the negotiations and how they broke down.

On September 8, one of Davis’ longstanding senior advisers asked me to serve as an intermediary in an attempt to engage the action-movie superstar turned Republican gubernatorial front-runner in a one-on-one debate with the embattled Democratic incumbent. In the obvious public interest of holding such a debate, I agreed, even though it meant crossing the line from a commentator to a participant of sorts in a political campaign.

For the next two and a half weeks, I passed confidential messages between the two camps. Only a handful of people at the very top of the campaigns knew of our negotiations. Last Friday, the discussions halted with Davis’ public and unilateral challenge to Schwarzenegger, which violated one of the principal terms agreed to by both parties, that there would be no grandstanding with discussions under way.

Last week Davis told the media that he only came up with the idea for a face-to-face debate after watching what he called Schwarzenegger’s distortions of Davis’ record during the debate among five challengers last Wednesday in Sacramento. Davis demanded that the actor correct his “misstatements,” saying, “I might have to debate him.” Asked by the media if that was a challenge to Schwarzenegger, Davis said he would announce a decision in two days.

Davis didn’t wait two days. Last Friday, appearing at an event with former Texas Governor Anne Richards, Davis declared that he was challenging Schwarzenegger to debate “right here, right now.”



In truth, “right here, right now” actually occurred 18 days earlier when longtime Davis pollster and senior strategist Paul Maslin asked me to facilitate, in a back-channel capacity, a debate between Davis and Schwarzenegger. Since a journalist served as a back channel between the United States and the Soviet Union during the Cuban Missile Crisis, this was not exactly a stretch for me. I am well-acquainted with both Davis and Schwarzenegger and have known Davis for more than 20 years. Maslin is an old friend and onetime colleague of mine in Democratic politics, as is Garry South, the former chief of staff and longtime chief strategist to Davis, to whom Maslin handed off the Davis-Schwarzenegger debate-liaison role. Maslin was a little busier doubling as pollster for Democratic presidential front-runner Howard Dean than was South in his role as a senior adviser to Senator Joe Lieberman. (Davis not so privately backs Senator John Kerry.) And South, architect of Davis’ two gubernatorial triumphs, was re-emerging after a break from Davis in a principal role in the save-Gray drive.

Convinced that the public wanted a showdown between Davis, who was the subject of the recall, and Schwarzenegger, the leading face of the recall, I took on the assignment with enthusiasm, informing the action superstar of the very intriguing Davis move and entering into discussion with South and Maslin’s counterpart, top Schwarzenegger strategist and media consultant Don Sipple.

Why did the Davis camp want a debate with Schwarzenegger? Because the governor is in desperate straits. Davis polling, then as now, showed the governor falling short of defeating the recall. It also showed Schwarzenegger leading the pack of replacement candidates. Further, it showed Schwarzenegger with greater expandability than the only name Democratic replacement candidate, Lieutenant Governor Cruz Bustamante.

Maslin knew that Bustamante’s massive illegal funding by Indian-casino tribes was driving his negatives skyward, and that Bustamante’s serious misstatements about the budget crisis, power crisis, immigration law and other issues were likely to shatter the Democratic candidate’s media credibility. The Davis analysis then, as now, was that Schwarzenegger was likely to defeat Bustamante. And that the governor, while able to make up ground against the effort to recall him, needed a dramatic event to prevail. Nothing would be more dramatic for Davis than debating Schwarzenegger.

If the governor could defeat the Hollywood legend in a debate, he might yet survive the recall. If he lost to Schwarzenneger, the action hero would almost certainly be the next governor of California. It was as simple as that, and both sides knew it.

While the Schwarzenegger campaign did not agree to a debate with Davis, it showed interest. The Davis camp, not surprisingly, quickly had a format in mind: a special weekend edition of Meet the Press, with host Tim Russert as the moderator. No panel of journalists was to be involved. The debate would be filmed on a Saturday and aired on a Sunday.

The Schwarzenegger camp expressed no problem with the format requested by Davis. But no Davis-Schwarzenegger debate decision would be made before Schwarzenegger’s first political debate of his life, on September 24 at Sacramento State University.

Dialogue continued, especially with the Davis camp, throughout the period in which Davis was supposedly coming back in the polls and Schwarzenegger was supposedly in trouble. The governor always wanted a debate with Schwarzenegger; it was central to his strategy since Labor Day. Indeed, both Schwarzenegger and Davis had the action superstar leading Bustamante or at least in a dead heat while some public polls — most notably the Los Angeles Times poll — had the lite guv in the lead. In fact, a very wide lead, according to a notorious Times poll of last month, which both the governor and the movie star discounted out of hand.

Early on, one major glitch threatened to derail talks early on when Jesse Jackson, appearing with Davis, started some long-distance taunting about Schwarzenegger debating Davis. I quickly contacted South and Sipple about it. South assured me in an e-mail that Jackson had “no inside knowledge of our strategy, tactics or back-channel contacts with anyone.” And that the good reverend was freelancing. In any event, Davis had reportedly already departed before Jackson made his provocative remarks.

Going into the big debate last week in Sacramento, both camps were aware of the stakes. The Davis team realized that if Schwarzenegger did well in the debate and if McClintock stayed in a strong yet distant third place, as he was then doing in both campaigns’ polls, then the former Mr. Universe would be in a strong position in the election. As anticipated, that turned out to be the result of the debate, despite Schwarzenegger’s gratuituous dustup with conservative turned liberal commentator Arianna Huffington.



With the big debate in the rearview mirror, I took a planned break in San Francisco. Don Sipple’s call reached me on my cell phone late last Thursday afternoon at Emporio Armani where my friend Viktoria and I were looking at clothes.

“Do we have a damn back channel going here or not?” demanded the usually imperturbable Sipple. “And what is that music?” As the customary fashion electronica pulsed in the background, I asked what was up.

Davis, it turned out, had declared that he was so upset by Schwarzenegger’s purported inaccuracies that he was thinking of asking for a debate with Schwarzenegger. He further said that he would decide whether to ask for a debate in two days. Since he had already been trying to get a debate for two and a half weeks, this was amusing, to me if not to Team Arnold. I told Sipple I would call Garry South.

South, who doesn’t always answer his cell phone, didn’t answer. A few hours later, I got through, but it seemed to be a bad connection, perhaps caused by the urban canyons of San Francisco and the real if boutique canyons of L.A. South said something about “miscommunication,” then the line went dead. I called back and he didn’t answer, nor did he respond that night to a page or an e-mail.

The next morning I was back in Sacramento for a McClintock press conference. South called on the cell phone at the close of the event. In the course of a long conversation, the governor’s longtime chief strategist agreed that Davis had abrogated our agreement. And he suggested that at an event later that day with former Governor Ann Richards, Davis would simply challenge Schwarzenegger to debate.

Davis had good reason to break our agreement. He knew the Sacramento debate went well for Schwarzenegger and that McClintock would no longer be the threat he had been portrayed to be in the press. More important, he knew the action superstar would have far less reason to debate him now.



Without the debate he and his chief advisers had long sought, Davis was reduced to the campaign we see now, an abandonment of the positive campaigning that had partially if very belatedly revived him and a renewal of the relentless negative campaigning that turned off many voters last year. Meanwhile, Schwarzenegger, having finally consolidated most of the Republican Party behind him, is moving back into positive mode, campaigning as a radical centrist during a statewide bus tour that culminates this Sunday in a big rally outside the state Capitol. While a campaign is never over until it is over, some bad things have to happen to prevent a Schwarzenegger victory.

It is unfortunate that Schwarzenegger will not debate Davis. It would be a spectacular story and would entertain and educate the public. Such an event might help people see whether or not Schwarzenegger could be a governor. This is the principal reason I agreed to the Davis request to try to arrange such a debate. But political consultants of any party seldom suffer malpractice suits for counseling caution. And I doubt Davis would do this, but there is a chance that Davis would turn the event into a mud bath that would diminish the process and the governorship no matter who ended up holding the office. With many unanswered questions about what exactly the leading contender, Arnold Schwarzenegger, would do in office, we move forward to October 7. Judgment Day.
laweekly.com