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Politics : Piffer Thread on Political Rantings and Ravings -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Oral Roberts who wrote (11780)10/1/2003 10:50:43 AM
From: zonder  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 14610
 
When they decided to publicly state that there would be no war or stronger sanctions because they would veto anything that was put forward

When did France say that?

they guaranteed that Iraq would not give in

Doesn't that conflict with the fact that Iraq allowed inspectors back in, handed over records, etc? That looked like "giving in". Unless, of course, the intention was to invade and nothing but invade.

Oh, and I hate to say this, but where are the "tons and tons" of WMDs your administration was so sure existed, and used as primary reasoning for the necessity of the invasion of Iraq? :-)

It's too bad someone doesn't invade and take over the cheese eating surrender monkey's

Come on, Oral. You can do better than quote The Simpsons :-)



To: Oral Roberts who wrote (11780)10/1/2003 11:21:57 AM
From: MulhollandDrive  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 14610
 
When they decided to publicly state that there would be no war or stronger sanctions because they would veto anything that was put forward they guaranteed that Iraq would not give in and that we would be forced to enforce UN resolution on our own

oh yes, i remember that well.

and i felt it demonstrated the fallacy of having a permanent seat on the security <cough> council with one veto negating the others (or even the threat of a veto)

translating into the ultimate irrelevance of the UN when it comes to anything more than humanitarian aid (and as the oil for food program showed, a fair amount of fraud and abuse there too)



To: Oral Roberts who wrote (11780)10/1/2003 3:40:22 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 14610
 
WTF kind of diplomacy and negotiations are taking place when one party publicly states there is nothing that can be put forward that they will not veto?
This is known as the "Carter Doctrine". "Under no conditions will we use military force against Iran even though they have kidnapped our embassy staff!" :-)

Of course. then you proceed to do it anyway. And fail. :-)