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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (468962)10/2/2003 10:38:59 AM
From: Neocon  Respond to of 769670
 
I have made far more nuanced statements than that "Everything is going so well". The piece you posted does not contradict anything I have said. I have posted various material, including observations from a commission headed by Madeleine Albright (actually, the report is in PDF, but I have a summary and link) and by Congressmen recently returned from Iraq, including Democrats, that show that we are making progress in improving the daily lot of Iraqis and in stabilizing the situation. 90% of towns have elected municipal councils, over 90% of schools are running, all universities are running, over 90% of hospitals are back in business, about 80% of businesses in Baghdad have reopened, most towns have electrical power at pre- war levels, there is no humanitarian crisis, etc. Nearly everyday, the military confiscates more arms caches and captures or kills more hostiles. In general, the trend is favorable.........



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (468962)10/2/2003 10:49:39 AM
From: Neocon  Respond to of 769670
 
Here is something from the recent issue of Time magazine:



Baghdad Today


Progress, Inch by Inch

By Simon Robinson I Baghdad




Posted Sunday, September 28, 2003
Lying on a beaten-up hospital bed with two bullets in his right leg, Amar Ali Najim has plenty to complain about. A few hours earlier, the Baghdad policeman had responded to reports that a gang of thieves was menacing a market. Arriving on the scene, Najim and his colleagues walked straight into a trap, presumably set by the gunmen who shot him and two other cops. But even in his current state, immobile and connected to an intravenous drip, Najim, 37, is upbeat. Things in Iraq are getting better, he says: "The violence has dropped by half. We still have gangs, but at least now we are challenging them."

The news out of Iraq in recent months has been mostly dreary. Since the beginning of August, three major terrorist attacks have killed at least 115 people. Strikes on American troops continue, and the job of rebuilding the country seems overwhelming at times. Yet as the scorching temperatures of summer give way to the occasional cooling breeze of fall, there is a short but growing list of achievements worth noting. Traffic cops have tamed some of Baghdad's worst intersections, crews of cleaners are tidying the streets, and the power supply has slowly improved.

A Gallup poll published last week found that while nearly half the Iraqis questioned felt the situation in their country was worse now than before the war, two-thirds thought that within five years their lives would be better than before the invasion. Most deemed the current sacrifices worthwhile: 62% were happy that Saddam Hussein is gone. "I'm optimistic," says liquor-store owner Hussam Nadim, whose sales have tripled since the chaotic period of three months ago, during which his shop was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade. "With time and a lot of work, I see things improving."

Many ordinary Iraqis complain that the media of other Arab nations are misrepresenting the situation, painting a one-dimensional picture of chaos and widespread antipathy to the U.S. Many Iraqis attribute the distortion to lingering Arab-media sympathies toward the Saddam regime. "They are wicked people," says Salah al-Sheikh, 31, a guard at an Arab embassy. "They say Americans are occupiers, but they are here to help us." The Governing Council last week temporarily barred two popular Arab satellite networks from attending council meetings.

Al-Yarmuk Hospital, where Najim was rushed when he was shot, exemplifies how things are moving forward. In early April, during the final days of heavy combat, the facility was almost emptied by looters. "They took beds, air-conditioners, linen, food, ultrasound machines, computers—anything they could carry out," says hospital director Mahdi Jasim Moosa. Since then, the hospital has been refurnished. Some equipment was returned by looters under pressure from neighbors and imams. New fittings have been bought with funds raised in a local mosque and donations from welfare organizations like the Red Cross and CARE. The number of shooting and stabbing victims admitted to the hospital spiked to roughly 20 a day after the war, but is down to half that, according to doctors. "It is not ideal," says Moosa, "but then it was not ideal in Saddam's time. Psychologically, we are much better today."

Engineer Adal Abdulhadi agrees. He oversees a crew of 70 street cleaners and painters employed by the city to spiff up the tony Baghdad suburb of Mansur. For between $3 and $5 a day, the men have cleared away most of the trash that piled up during the war and are now painting the gutters shiny yellow and white. The program may largely be a make-work exercise for local men, Abdulhadi acknowledges, but it's "better than them sitting around doing nothing but getting angry with the Americans."

The slowly improving power supply is also lifting spirits in Baghdad. It helps that cooler weather means fewer air-conditioners now drain the city's decrepit grid. Electricity output is up, if not yet to prewar levels. Two weeks ago, the Ministry of Electricity began hiring the first of more than 4,000 "power police" to patrol thousands of miles of lines across the country to help prevent sabotage.

Of course, the list of problems facing Iraq is still long: resistance to the U.S. occupation remains vicious; the vital oil industry is a shambles; elections are months away. Against these challenges, tidier neighborhoods and repainted roads may seem trifling matters. But in postwar Iraq, any small victory is appreciated.


With reporting by Vivienne Walt/Baghdad

time.com



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (468962)10/2/2003 10:57:49 AM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
An interesting quote from the cover story:

Critics insist that Bush and Blair stretched the available intelligence on WMD until it fit their predetermined decision to go to war. But that can't be the whole story. There is no doubt many British and U.S. officials really believed that Saddam had at least chemical and biological weapons—the British government, certainly, would never have taken the risk of waging an unpopular war if it had genuinely thought there was nothing deadly to be found in Iraq. And in their conviction that Saddam was hiding something, Bush and Blair were not alone. Top members of Bill Clinton's Administration were also convinced that Saddam had WMD programs, and in an interview with Time in February, even Chirac said it was "probable" that Iraq had chemical and biological weapons. U.N. weapons inspectors had long said that Iraq had not accounted for all the WMD discovered in the 1990s.

Why were so many people so sure that Saddam had WMD? In part, of course, because he did once have them—and until challenged by U.N. inspectors after the first Gulf War had tried to conceal them. There may, however, have been another reason: Saddam himself apparently thought he had them. Sources tell Time that Western intelligence intercepted communications from Saddam that indicated he was taking a keen interest in the progress of ongoing WMD programs. It may be that evidence of such programs will yet turn up. Or possibly Saddam may have been duped by his own scientists, who didn't tell him their work on WMD was not getting far. (It would have been a brave Iraqi who crossed Saddam on that point.) Alternatively, in the hall of mirrors that was Iraq, Saddam may have been trying to fool everyone into thinking that he had something he hadn't. But if the assumption that Saddam had deadly weapons looks, at least for now, to have been mistaken, it was to an extent understandable....


time.com