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To: epicure who wrote (3888)	10/3/2003 9:31:46 AM
From: thames_sider	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20773

OK, I've elucidated the diplomatic understatement. <g> But we've seen this administration claim many positions in conflict with the facts, and the lemmings who parrot them insist that they are still on firm and level ground... even while their legs scurry frantically through empty air. So they are 'believed', sort of.

To: epicure who wrote (3888)	10/3/2003 1:42:05 PM
From: Ron	Respond to of 20773

Ashcroft, Rove ties scrutinized A COMPANY controlled by Karl Rove, who stands accused by the CIA officer’s husband of at least condoning the leak, was paid more than $300,000 by John Ashcroft’s 1994 Senate campaign in Missouri for direct mail work and other services, the New York Times reported Friday, citing campaign finance data. President Bush’s top political adviser also played a role in two earlier Ashcroft gubernatorial campaigns. Information about the ties between Rove and Ashcroft has emboldened Democrats to push harder for a special counsel to investigate the leak. “Given allegations about the involvement of senior White House officials and the past close association between the attorney general and one of those officials, the investigation should be headed by a person independent of the administration,” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said in a statement issued Thursday. “If there ever was a case for the appointment of a special counsel, this is it.” Guide to CIA leak furor The White House also honed its criticism of those calling for a special counsel, saying the accusation that Bush administration officials were responsible for leaking the name of the undercover CIA officer to syndicated newspaper columnist Robert Novak was based on “unsubstantiated rumors.” ‘SEEKING PARTISAN POLITICAL ADVANTAGE’ “Unfortunately, there are some that are looking through the lens of political opportunism,” said White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan. “There are some that are seeking partisan political advantage.” The agent’s husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson IV, has said he believes the leak to Novak, who published the woman’s in July, came from the White House both as retribution for his public questioning of Bush’s rationale for going to war with Iraq and as a way to intimidate other administration critics into remaining silent. He originally blamed Rove, but later backtracked, saying that he believes the presidential adviser “condoned” the leak. Meanwhile, the Justice Department was moving quickly ahead with its investigation, setting a deadline for the White House to turn over materials related to the investigation, according to an administration official who spoke with NBC News on condition of anonymity. The official said it was not immediately clear how long the department gave the White House to produce the documents, but indicated that it was likely that the deadline was set for late next week. The move came a day after U.S. officials told NBC News that the investigation would soon expand to include the State and Defense departments. Officials at the two departments told NBC News on condition of anonymity that they expected to receive letters urging them not to delete e-mails and to preserve documents such as telephone logs. Similar letters have already gone to the White House and CIA. The expansion of the leak investigation was first reported Thursday afternoon by The Associated Press. The FBI team assigned to the case has already begun conducting interviews of CIA officers, other U.S. officials told NBC News on condition of anonymity. The officials declined to say whom the agents had interviewed. Interviews of White House staffers began today. msnbc.com