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To: TimF who wrote (175968)	10/4/2003 1:00:52 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1579908

<9i>One link is saying something like "McNabb has been overrated so Rush is right". I think McNabb has indeed been overrated but I'm not sure that the reason is race. If race is a reason it is not the only one IMO. I am glad to hear it. I don't follow the Eagles closely but the situation with McNabb sounds like Freddy Garcia, one of the Mariner's pitchers. There were high expections for both when they came to their respective teams and both have fallen short. Garcia has been rated one of the best pitchers in the AL. However, his stats don't support those claims but when his game is on, damn he's good. However his game is off more than its on. I think a similiar scenario applies to McNabb. But who can tell at this point........the NFL is three games into its season. The Mariners were #1 in their division all summer til the last month. No one can predict how the Eagles and McNabb will do this season. And to say its the fault of the media because he's black.......to me that's a stretch. I think that's why the reaction was very strong. And it could well be that Rush's judgement is impaired by drugs if its true he's a user. The only way the 2nd part really address AA is when Karen De Coster argues against what the NFL did to the Lions when they didn't interview black coaches. I agree with her. The Lions knew who they wanted to hire from the beginning. Not "someone white" but a specific individual. But they tried to comply with the NFL's rules anyway. But no black coaching candidate would go for the interview since they knew the Lions had already made up their minds. So why punish the Lions? What did they do wrong? I don't know the specifics but I find it hard to believe that not one black coach would interview for the job. Think about it..........with all the black coaches in the US..hi school, college, pro sports...., not one was willing to take a free ride to Detroit for an interview. Frankly, I suspect there's more to this story than what's being told. I have been in school and working since AA has been in place and not once did I ever believe my upward movement was stopped/slowed by AA That's like a white bigot who supports of Jim Crow laws and segregation pointing to a black man who has achieved great things and saying that his upward movement was not stopped by racism. He might be telling the truth. A lot of people can overcome disadvantages. You are even more likely to be telling the truth. Maybe you where not at the margin but where far above the cut, so when you where given a disadvantage you still didn't have to worry. But a lot of people are at the margin. They are the ones who really feel the disadvantage. It didn't happen to me. I did not see it happen to others. That's all I know. But what I did see were people, who were not competent and/or did not put in the necessary effort, blaming AA for every lost opportunity or advancement. I believe that too. People who face unjust racial discrimination, either Jim Crow, or AA, are far less likely to have very successfully lives if they blame all of their failures on the discrimination and use it as an excuse not to put in the effort. Of course people should put the effort in anyway, but that doesn't make imposing a racially biased selection process a good thing. I never said that AA was a good thing. I believe it to be a necessary evil to correct past wrongs. I believe the past wrongs were huge; I believe AA is a minor effort to correct those past wrongs. I believe whites in the country got off easy. BTW AA doesn't say you have to hire someone because of their race but you are to make best efforts to interview individuals of different races and to not discriminate. I don't even have problems with the quota system used at universities but I can understand people's complaints with that system. ted