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To: g_w_north who wrote (176026)	10/4/2003 2:58:02 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1575535

Do you really think Arnold will change the political landscape because he is not a career politician? Not a chance. Why is he not running as an independent then seeing as his platform is not exactly conservative? Why did he say that he would not raise money from special-interest groups, yet he has already raised millions? What does Davis's desperation have to do with anything? I mean people are voting for Arnold for all kinds of stupid reasons, why not point out something that he openly admitted? If people were smart they would vote "no" to the recall and then vote overwhelmingly for another candidate. This would send a message that this kind of recall stuff is ludicrous but that people are overwhelmingly disgruntled with the status quo. Personally, Californians have voted themselves into this mess with all the stupid "Propositions" they have voted for over the years. Well said! Californians are still looking for that free ride and they're hoping that Arnold will be the ticket. And if he's not, its still will be KEWL to have Arnold as gov. Second to getting a free ride, Californians like kewl! <g> ted

To: g_w_north who wrote (176026)	10/4/2003 3:18:12 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1575535

<font color=brown>This guy says it like it is and he says it well!<font color=black> ted *************************************************** bayarea.com Reality television: Rush Limbaugh revealed BY MARK WHICKER The Orange County Register (KRT) - Rush Limbaugh's observations of Donovan McNabb don't even make his Top 1,000 list. Limbaugh said Philadelphia's defense, not McNabb, won the `02 NFC East title. For Limbaugh, that is accuracy. McNabb missed the final six games, and the Eagles went 5-1. He also said the NFL is "desirous" of having black coaches succeed, and it is hard to argue with that one, too. Not when the Lions get fined and punished because they hired Steve Mariucci without going through the charade of interviewing a black candidate. Had Limbaugh stopped there, he still would be working for ESPN's Sunday-morning gabfest. But Limbaugh never can stop there. He did not become the rich and powerful king of "news talk" by stopping there. Because Limbaugh loves to reassure his audience that affirmative action is the ruin of American society, he had to play that card. So he said the league and media also were "desirous" of seeing black quarterbacks succeed - as if McNabb was there on a quota system. <font color=red>That prompted Limbaugh to "resign" and, as is customary with media bullies, he turned tail on his critics and offered no resistance. The comment was not just politically incorrect. It was incorrect. The league and media have done nothing to promote black quarterbacks, or there might be 15 of them.<font color=black> It has been a long process. Rush must have been on the golf course when: Doug Williams won a Super Bowl. Randall Cunningham electrified the Eagles. Steve McNair got to a Super Bowl and began establishing himself as the NFL's toughest player. Kordell Stewart got to an AFC Championship Game. McNabb got to two NFC Championship Games. Warren Moon set yardage records. Daunte Culpepper mocked teams that picked Akili Smith and Tim Couch ahead of him. Those battles were won long ago. When you see a black quarterback today, it's as routine as a black 6 o'clock news anchor. Many fans had even forgotten McNabb was black. But here's Rush, trying to take the whole process to appeal. And this time he paid for it - because he said it on TV and not radio. There are two losers in this story, neither of them Limbaugh, since he will spin Victimhood into even greater glory. No, the losers are ESPN and talk radio. Despite its fantastic investigative and documentary work, ESPN still has a terminal case of the cutes. It also cannot leave the games alone, cannot get past its own boredom. Limbaugh fulfilled ESPN's only demand: He was loud. Putting him on TV and expecting him to do no damage was like letting a grizzly bear into your pantry and expecting the doughnuts to survive. A conservative author on MSNBC said Limbaugh's remark wasn't a "hanging offense." He's right. Rush isn't being hanged. He merely lost his gig. And it happened because ESPN, ABC and Disney wonder how you can conclude McNabb has gone backward when he had his best passer rating in `02 - unless you're working your agenda. <font color=red>The other point is that Limbaugh could have said all kinds of things about McNabb on the radio and nothing would have happened. After all, he has called Hillary Clinton a murderer, Tom Daschle the devil, and idly wondered why all post-office mug shots look like Jesse Jackson, with no regulation or retribution. The reason that mudslinging works on the radio is simple: On the radio, Limbaugh is speaking to the dittoheads, the disciples who swallow everything. On TV, Limbaugh has to address the population as a whole. McNabb knows about talk-show slime. In 1999, a radio joker organized busloads of listeners to attend the NFL draft and boo McNabb when the Eagles picked him, because he wasn't Ricky Williams. Hello, Philly.<font color=black> Don Imus decided to honor the retiring Bob Murphy, a Hall of Famer who has broadcast Mets games since the franchise began in 1962. Except Imus spent his segment ridiculing Murphy, who has been ill and obviously makes mistakes borne of age. A year ago, during the Arizona-St. Louis Division Series, a particular sicko in Phoenix finally showed how a talk-show host could get fired. Beau Duran called Flynn Kile, whose husband, Darryl, had died while pitching for the Cardinals in June of `02. "You're hot," Duran said. "Do you have a date for the game?" That did it, although it would have been more fun if Duran had been forced to stay on the air until several Cardinals pitchers could have gotten a personal audience. Talk shows are <font color=red>a crack<font color=black> in the mirror of America. Ask Kobe Bryant's accuser. Or listen to the Phil Hendrie Show, based at KFI. Hendrie interviews outlandish "guests" - the doctor who says parents should watch pornography with their kids, the Afghani USC student who demands that American planes fly closer to the ground. The phones light up immediately, from the outraged. The joke is that the "guests" are Hendrie himself, a fact he announces periodically. The animals bellow anyway. Sports talk isn't as important, of course, but it comes from the same poisonous root. Fire this guy. Trade this other guy. Call up Bud Selig and pretend you're a sports writer. Rush Limbaugh crawled out of that bunker and put himself before TV lights, and everybody got a good look. For a month anyway.** --- © 2003, The Orange County Register (Santa Ana, Calif.).

To: g_w_north who wrote (176026)	10/4/2003 3:31:35 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1575535

GW, Do you really think Arnold will change the political landscape because he is not a career politician? Not a chance. Hey, I don't have any wild expectations myself. But you can't deny that people are sick and tired of the "game." You could say the people are getting so desperate, they're look to just about anyone who will change the game. Do you blame them? If people were smart they would vote "no" to the recall and then vote overwhelmingly for another candidate. This would send a message that this kind of recall stuff is ludicrous but that people are overwhelmingly disgruntled with the status quo. I think people want to do more than just send a message that they fear will be ignored. This represents their chance to make a real difference. So what if they missed their chance in 2002? Given the choice to correct their mistake now or wait until 2006, guess which way they'll go? Personally, Californians have voted themselves into this mess with all the stupid "Propositions" they have voted for over the years. I guess Californians can't trust the government to break its "tax-n-spend" habit, huh? Guess it goes back to being sick and tired of the "game." Tenchusatsu