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To: JohnM who wrote (10800)	10/4/2003 7:39:16 PM
From: unclewest	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793648

It will not help the thread if you and I spend a great deal of time redebating the Lewinsky stuff. Pahdun me. You brought up the subject of Lewinski. I did not talk about her, you did. I talked about all the other women who charged clinton with sexual harrassment, sexual abuse and sexual assault. I'm not defending Clinton's private life Well ya sure fooled me with that consensual sex with Monika thing...Why did ya bring it up...Once upon a time Clinton may have had consensual sex with Hillary too. So what! Both have absolutely nothing to do with Arnold. He may have consensual sex with Maria. If you want to make a comparison about charges...then compare charges.

To: JohnM who wrote (10800)	10/4/2003 7:49:01 PM
From: unclewest	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793648

the focus of everything was the Lewinsky stuff. The focus of everything was Clinton lying under oath and obstruction of justice and a few other infractions outlined below: I will leave it up to you to figure out how to tie all this back to Arnold. Starr’s 11 allegations of impeachable acts include perjury, obstruction of justice and official misconduct. Starr charges that Clinton lied under oath: at numerous times in his deposition in the Paula Jones civil case when he discussed being alone with Lewinsky, gifts he gave to her and their relationship. in the civil deposition about his discussions with Washington lawyer Vernon Jordan concerning Lewinsky’s involvement in the Jones case; and to the grand jury about his relationship with Lewinsky; The Starr report also details charges of obstruction of justice and witness tampering, alleging that Clinton: had an understanding with Lewinsky to jointly conceal the truth about their relationship by concealing gifts subpoenaed by Jones’ lawyers; had an understanding with Lewinsky to jointly conceal the truth of their relationship from the judicial process by lying under oath and by Clinton suggesting that Lewinsky prepare a false affidavit; helped Lewinsky obtain a job in New York at a time when she would have been a witness harmful to him; attempted to influence the testimony of his personal secretary Betty Currie; and endeavored to obstruct justice during the grand jury investigation by refusing to testify for seven months and by lying to senior White House aides. Finally, Starr charges that the president abused his constitutional authority by lying to the public and Congress in January about the affair; promising to cooperate fully with the grand jury and later refusing six invitations to testify voluntarily; invoking executive privilege; lying to the grand jury; and lying to the public in his televised confession Aug. 17.