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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (76488)	10/5/2003 10:53:04 AM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

You are very likely accessing some unfair cut and splice of some of Jewels own handiwork in a gratuitous post ABOUT me. In his myriad ad hominen string of insults in his last several posts (none, of course, which are attested to by any references!), I did not recognize ONE--NOT ONE--which remotely resembled any position I had taken, or a single idea I presented! Of course, all my posts were in the open and for public consumption, so Jewels could have indicated his characterization at the time of the posts and striven to argue his "point". However, generalized ad hominems can only bring denials rather than "proof" (which all my responses to the original posts constituted!). This is the reason that Jewels wishes to revise lost arguments by taking ancient material, adding his own changes, and presenting them in some ad hominen form as an attribution to me. Perhaps you were remembering this post. All I can tell you is that, if it wasn't referenced--it is for the reason that I did not say anything at all like Jewels is pretending I said. Message 19361235 I have come to expect this manner of "argument" from him. There is not much that I would compare with it for demonstrating an absence of basic decency and honesty. It is an attacking style which I loathe and detest. It is just a cut and paste of his own insane posts ABOUT me revigorated into a general smear with the advantage (so he believes) that the scattergun nature of the attack will make it impossible to defend. What he dosn't understand is that no defense is required to lies and misrepresentations.

To: Lane3 who wrote (76488)	10/5/2003 7:36:27 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 82486

"The question is--is Mojo not disparaging women and homosexuals as a class when he assumes that members of these two particular classes have inappropriate sexual impulses or can't control their sexual impulses? Perhaps you answered that question, but I don't think so." Ah, now I get part of the problem. I just figured (and still do) that solon was just being mean out of his natural need to say anything biggoted at every opertunity about the groups of people he hates. But, maybe you think you owe me an explanation as to why you haven't stopped cheating on your husband too. Failure to do so proves that you hate people who are loyal to their spouses (the solonistic spin... see anybody can do it). While you are at it could you please show me where in the mojo scenario he (or I) indicated that women and homosexuals were less in control of their sexuality than anyone else. Now that really does give me a reason to pause...remarkable...absolutely remarkable... <<<Knowing ahead of time that you will go on to simply state that I haven't accounted for why mojo thinks women and homo-sexuals are less able than any one else to control their sexual impulses...even though I cannot tell you why he thinks that since he DOESNT... never did, never said he did, never said he felt anyone was inferior in anyway, never behaved as though he thought any one was inferior in anyway, been through that a dozen times with solon, now you, fine, bring it on (knowing you wont, knowing you will just slink back into the backdrop with asides to solon)...>>> you have been juicing solon on this ridiculous jibe and now I know why...OMG, ... You actually think it is a legitimate question. Well you are going to have to qualify it. What about the mojo scenario validates that question...Oh yeah your gut, the insidious undefinable harm that people can't actually identify, but are harmed by even though they don't realize it and the dangerous attitudes that are propogated by all that. Wow, pretty deep stuff, but when you dig through all this complicated obscure smelly stuff, you end up with something pretty simple, ya just don't like his kind...the rest of what you have tried really hard to identify simply doesn't exist...I've got one simple word for that.