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To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (2803)	10/11/2003 10:30:43 PM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3959

What's wrong with N. Korea and Iran getting nuclear missiles when the US thinks that it is OK for Israel to do so? Israel deploys nuclear arms in submarines Peter Beaumont in London and Conal Urquhart in Jerusalem Sunday October 12, 2003 The Observer Israeli and American officials have admitted collaborating to deploy US-supplied Harpoon cruise missiles armed with nuclear warheads in Israel's fleet of Dolphin-class submarines, giving the Middle East's only nuclear power the ability to strike at any of its Arab neighbours. The unprecedented disclosure came as Israel announced that states 'harbouring terrorists' are legitimate targets, responding to Syria's declaration of its right to self-defence should Israel bomb its territory again. According to Israeli and Bush administration officials interviewed by the Los Angeles Times, the sea-launch capability gives Israel the ability to target Iran more easily should the Iranians develop their own nuclear weapons. Although it has been long suspected that Israel bought three German diesel-electric submarines with the specific aim of arming them with nuclear cruise missiles, the admission that the two countries had collaborated in arming the fleet with a nuclear-capable weapons system is significant at a time of growing crisis between Israel and its neighbours. According to the paper, the disclosure by two US officials is designed to discourage Israel's enemies from against launching an attack amid rapidly escalating tensions in the region following a raid by Israeli jets on an alleged terrorist training camp near the Syrian capital, Damascus. In a clear echo of the Bush doctrine of pre-emption, the Foreign Ministry's senior spokesman, Gideon Meir, insisted: 'Israel views every state that is harbouring terrorist organisations and the leaders of those terrorist organisations who are attacking innocent citizens of the state of Israel as legitimate targets out of self defence.' The disclosure, is certain to complicate UN-led efforts to persuade Iran to make a full disclosure of its nuclear programme. It will also complicate the Bush administration's efforts to reach out to moderate Arab states when they are pressing for an equal disclosure of Israel's nuclear weapons programme. Although Israel has long been known to possess nuclear weapons, in the past it has abided by a deal struck with President Richard Nixon in 1969 that it would maintain 'ambiguity' about its retention of weapons in exchange for the US turning a blind eye. According to reliable estimates, Israel has around 200 nuclear warheads. It acquired the three Dolphin class submarines, which can remain at sea for a month, in the late Nineties. They are equipped with six torpedo tubes suitable for the 21-inch torpedoes that are normally used on most submarines. It had been understood they would carry a version of the 'Popeye Turbo' cruise missiles being developed by Rafael Armament Development Authority of Israel. Israel's seaborne nuclear doctrine is designed to place one submarine in the Persian Gulf, the other in the Mediterranean, with a third on standby. Secret test launches of the cruise missile systems were understood to have been undertaken in May 2000 when Israel carried out tests in the Indian Ocean. 'We tolerate nuclear weapons in Israel for the same reason we tolerate them in Britain and France,' one of the LA Times' sources told the paper. 'We don't regard Israel as a threat.' Despite the anonymity of the source, the sentiment is almost identical to that of the US Under Secretary of State for Arms Control, John Bolton, who told British journalists last week that America was not interested in taking Israel to task for its continuing development of nuclear weapons because it was not a 'threat' to the United States. Even if Bolton was not one of the sources for the story, his comments, coming on top of that of the two other sources, suggest the degree to which senior members of the Bush administration can now not even be bothered to hide America's assistance and encouragement for Israel's nuclear programme. observer.guardian.co.uk

To: GUSTAVE JAEGER who wrote (2803)	10/12/2003 7:56:32 AM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3959

4 Jewish Web sites deemed 'terrorist' By Jerry Seper THE WASHINGTON TIMES Four Internet Web sites operated by two extremist Jewish groups have been included by the State Department on its list of "foreign terrorist organizations" — the first time the list has been extended to include Internet sites. The listing, which went unnoticed when announced Oct. 3 in the department's annual redesignation of the world's terrorist organizations, includes the four sites operated by the Kach and its offshoot, the Kahane Chai, both of which have been designated by the department as terrorist organizations. The Kach, founded by radical Israeli-American Rabbi Meir Kahane, and the Kahane Chai, which means "Kahane Lives," founded by Kahane's son, Binyamin, following his father's assassination in the United States, were first declared terrorist organizations by the Israeli Cabinet in 1994, a month after a Kach supporter killed 29 Muslim worshippers at a West Bank mosque. The stated goal of the two groups is the restoration of the biblical state of Israel. The four Web sites are: www.newkach.org, www.Kahane.org, www.Kahane.net and www.Kahanetzadak.com, the department said in a notice in the Federal Register. They offer news, commentary and links to other sites of interest to followers of Meir Kahane. The impact of the listing was not immediately clear, since all four sites exist in cyberspace. A designation as a terrorist organization carries travel and financial sanctions, including the freezing of assets and a prohibition against the issuance of visas to those identified as members or associates. All but the www.newkach.org site were accessible yesterday. The www.newkach.org site said it was being redesigned and asked users to "be patient," adding that there was "going to be ... some other feedback possibilities." The designation makes it illegal for persons in the United States to donate money or other material support to the Web sites. The three accessible sites yesterday included information on where contributions could be sent, what items could be donated and offered a number items for sale, including pendants and books. The Kach and the Kahane Chai have organized protests against the Israeli government and have harassed and threatened Palestinians in the West Bank. Members of the groups have threatened to attack Arabs, Palestinians and Israeli government officials and are suspected in a number of low-level attacks against Israeli targets. Meir Kahane, who founded the Jewish Defense League (JDL) in 1968, was killed in New York City in 1990 by El Sayyid Nosair, a member of a terrorist organization that in 1993 bombed the World Trade Center. Binyamin Kahane and his wife were killed by Palestinians in 2000. The JDL is described by law enforcement authorities as a militant group with a history of confrontations against those it considers "enemies of Israel." Kahane, leader of the Kach political party, believed the Palestinians sought only to exterminate the Israeli Jews and proposed the forcible deportation of Palestinians from Israel — which he called the only acceptable solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He also believed Israel should become a theocratic Jewish state, calling on the government to pass laws that were part of Orthodox Judaism, including a ban on marriages between Jews and non-Jews. Born in New York City in 1932, he emigrated to Israel in 1969. In 1980, he stood unsuccessfully for election to the Knesset, after which he was sentenced to six months in prison for plotting to attack Muslim shrines on the Temple Mount. On his release in 1984, he again sought election to the Knesset, but the Israeli Central Elections Committee banned him from being a candidate on charges of racism. The Israeli High Court later ruled that the committee did not have the legal power to do so. In 1985, the Knesset passed an amendment banning racist candidates. The committee applied it to Kahane, who appealed the decision to the Israeli High Court. This time the court found in favor of the committee, declaring Kahane to be unsuitable for election. He then returned to the United States. washingtontimes.com