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To: JDN who wrote (471722)10/6/2003 6:08:23 AM
From: Ish  Respond to of 769670
 
<<I think what makes OUR situation in Iraq different then the Soviet situation in Afghanistan is that in our case we are BEHIND THE PEOPLE not against them.>>

The Soviets wanted to own and control Afghanistan with the ultimate goal of making them a satellite state. The reason was to have a southern seaport.



To: JDN who wrote (471722)10/6/2003 7:03:17 AM
From: Orcastraiter  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
What we need here is PATIENCE but sadly the MEDIA doesnt SELL NEWS with PATIENCE. jdn

Yep, patience and $87 billion dollars, this year.

President Bush missed a golden opportunity to court the world at the UN. Getting the UN into Iraq is key to saving money, lives and quickly turning over the country to an interim Iraqi government.

A constitution should be drawn up (NOW!) and approved by the Iraqi people or their representatives. Elections could then be instituted in a orderly fashion, according to the Iraqi Constitution.

Success will be measured by how fast this can occur. Scrap the multi billion dollar gold plated re construction. Let Iraqis decide how and what to rebuild. UN and US should be providing assistance in the way of funds and advisors. But let Iraq deal with the problems. There are many professional people there capable of these tasks. America is not needed to do this. And further they want to do it their way. Let the people have the liberation that Bush is claiming. What's stopping the process? Still hoping to capture Saddam? I though he was not important now that he has fallen.

Orca



To: JDN who wrote (471722)10/6/2003 8:28:12 AM
From: zonder  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 769670
 
we are BEHIND THE PEOPLE not against them

It is a pity they don't seem to get that.

I think you would find this article interesting. From Prospect magazine (www.prospect-magazine.co.uk)

Time to go home

October 2003

The British and Americans should leave Iraq

Edward Luttwak

Just because terrorists are trying to bomb us out of Iraq, it does not mean that we have to stay there. The time has come to recognise that the policy which sent L Paul Bremer to govern Iraq, with troops and contractors working on a myriad projects around the country, has failed and will continue to fail, at ever greater cost. Coalition forces should not abandon Iraq, but they should withdraw to remote desert garrisons and let Iraqis try to govern themselves.

Both the economic and the political aims of the occupation have proven impossible to achieve. This is not because a waning number of Saddam's gunmen, and a growing number of Islamist volunteers from Saudi Arabia, Syria and elsewhere, have started a guerrilla war. If they alone were the problem, US and British forces far superior in numbers and skills could cope well enough. What guarantees failure is not even the sad fact that some sabotage and a vast amount of theft are visibly gaining on the reconstruction effort, so that Iraq is regressing in everything from electrical supply to the number of real, paid jobs. Bremer's remedy-to have US taxpayers send aid faster than Iraqi gangs can steal it-may be rejected by the US Congress in an election year, but at least in theory it could be a solution. Nor does it matter overly that some prominent Iraqis excluded from the Iraq governing council are campaigning against it, while Ahmad al-Kubaisi, "leader of the resistance," is still being allowed to raise funds in the Gulf, and address "anti-imperialist" rallies in Europe. For that too there are remedies.

But there are no possible remedies for the fundamental cause of failure: most Iraqis simply do not believe that the occupation is benevolent, and therefore refuse to collaborate to make it a success. They do not report guerrillas, saboteurs and thieves unless they are personal enemies. They do nothing to protect the water and electrical supplies on which they themselves depend, let alone oil facilities. They are not helping the troops who are repairing schools and hospitals for their own families. It is therefore sheer fantasy to expect Iraqis to collaborate to establish the structures of a pluralist democracy under US guidance.

Nor is there anything perverse about these refusals, given the Iraqi worldview. Saddam Hussein's one moment of genuine popularity came immediately after the 1990 invasion of Kuwait, when Iraqi troops on leave returned to their families with their loot, everything from bits of clothing to solid gold doorknobs.

If the US-British invasion of Iraq had been followed by the organised looting of Iraqi museums and bank vaults, and the prompt sale of oilfields to US and British companies, Iraqis would of course have protested bitterly and tried to resist, but at least they would have understood.

As it is, they are being asked to believe that Bush and Blair-both Christian imperialists as they see it-unaccountably want Iraqi Muslims to be prosperous and free. They consider that a childish deception, an insult to their intelligence. The Iraqi editorialists now writing in the newly liberated press do not agree on the real purpose of the occupation-is it to undermine Islam? Destroy the Arab nation? Over-produce Iraqi oil to wreck Opec? Iraqis no doubt believe in a mixture of motives-none of them good. Mentalities change, of course, and after two or three decades of relentless benevolence, Iraqis might overcome their incredulity-but that would require more blood and money than the entire middle east is worth.

On his recent trip to Iraq, Donald Rumsfeld claimed that no more troops were needed to secure the country. Probably not one of the 120,000 or so US troops now in Iraq would agree. Italy, with more than double the population but infinitely more advanced in every way, with no ethnic or religious conflicts, and a total territory two thirds the size of Iraq's, has a police:population ratio higher than Iraq's, counting all coalition troops and Iraqi policemen recruited so far.

Perhaps the biggest lie about Iraq is that its population is ready for democracy. It is not, for its several mutually unfriendly minorities dread majority rule by Shi'is. Prominent advocates of the war still describe the Iraqis as if they were all well educated-even "enormously talented," in the words of Richard Perle-while in fact illiteracy (or near enough) is widespread, as is a tribal mentality inimical to democracy.

There is an alternative. Now that the Iraqi governing council is in place, our officials can be recalled, and reduced US and British garrisons can be moved to desert bases, with everyday security left to the police and the Kurdish and Shi'i militias. That way, any Ba'athist resurrection or foreign intrusion could still be prevented, reconstruction will become an Iraqi responsibility funded with Iraqi revenues, and Iraqis alone will design their government. There is nothing shameful about high ambitions and an excess of benevolence, but to persist now would undermine the world's faith in the rationality of American statecraft. As for the credibility of US resolve in the middle east, there is nothing to worry about there: the march of the marines with their landing craft all the way to Tikrit took care of that for a few generations to come.

Edward Luttwak is a senior fellow at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies, Washington DC.



To: JDN who wrote (471722)10/7/2003 6:34:23 AM
From: zonder  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
The Unbuilding of Iraq

msnbc.com

PERFECT STORM: Wrongheaded assumptions. Ideological blinders. Weak intelligence, missteps, poor coordination and bad luck. How Team Bush’s reconstruction efforts went off the rails from day one.

By John Barry and Evan Thomas
NEWSWEEK


Oct. 6 issue — The Iraq war had yet to begin, but some nasty fighting was already going on back in Washington between the Department of Defense and the Department of State.

LAST FEBRUARY, retired Lt. Gen. Jay Garner was trying to put together a team of experts to rebuild Iraq after the war was over, and his list included 20 State Department officials. The day before he was supposed to leave for the region, Garner got a call from Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who ordered him to cut 16 of the 20 State officials from his roster. It seems that the State Department people were deemed to be Arabist apologists, or squishy about the United Nations, or in some way politically incorrect to the right-wing ideologues at the White House or the neocons in the office of the Secretary of Defense. The vetting process “got so bad that even doctors sent to restore medical services had to be anti-abortion,” recalled one of Garner’s team. Finally, Secretary of State Colin Powell tried to stand up for his troops and stop Rumsfeld’s meddling. “I can take hostages, too,” Powell warned the secretary of Defense. “How hard do you want to play this thing?”

Pretty hard. Powell lost, as he often does in the councils of the Bush war cabinet, and Rumsfeld had his way. Only one of the 16 State officials was restored to Garner’s reconstruction team. It was a petty triumph, but emblematic of Rumsfeld’s dominating, sometimes overbearing style. Rumsfeld was not a rogue elephant. In much of what he did, Rumsfeld himself was following orders. The hidden hand of the White House (read: Vice President Dick Cheney) was decisive in many of the behind-the-scenes struggles over postwar policymaking in Iraq. But President George W. Bush put the Defense Department in charge of both invading Iraq and rebuilding it after the war. Since 9/11, the secretary of Defense has been a brilliant war leader. Yet when it comes to making peace, he has been guilty of almost willful denial. His deep reluctance to use the American military for “peacekeeping” and “nation-building”—he scorns the very terms—threatens to wrest defeat from the jaws of victory in Iraq.

IRAQ AT A TIPPING POINT?
Rumsfeld (like his boss, President Bush) continues to be unapologetic. Last week, on The Washington Post’s op-ed page, he wrote of the “solid progress” being made in Iraq—building a 56,000-man Iraqi defense force, steps toward self-government—and suggested strongly that the critics would be proved wrong. Maybe. But almost six months after their “liberation,” the Iraqis are still short of power (both electrical and electoral) and jobs, and the guerrilla war continues to claim an American soldier or two on almost a daily basis. Inside and outside the U.S. government, knowledgeable experts worry that Iraq is nearing a tipping point—that rising terrorism and resentment of America could bring real chaos or civil war.

How did we get in this mess? NEWSWEEK interviews with top government officials involved in the planning and execution of the reconstruction of Iraq point to a “perfect storm” of mistakes and bad luck: wrongheaded assumptions, ideological blinders, weak intelligence and poor coordination by White House national-security adviser Condoleezza Rice. Much of the damage was done at the outset—in the first days after the war, when political infighting and wishful thinking prevented the United States from taking control of a bad situation that was turning worse.

It’s not that the Bush administration failed to plan for the reconstruction of Iraq. In August 2002 Bush decided that Saddam had to go, by force if necessary. Soon after Labor Day, the White House set up an elaborate network of nine teams studying how to cope with potential humanitarian crises during and after the war and how to remake postwar Iraq into a peaceful democracy. There was widespread recognition of the difficulty of the task. By mid-January, President Bush was given a sober, realistic PowerPoint presentation (made available to NEWSWEEK) on postwar reconstruction that included a warning that Iraq’s economy could collapse, creating widespread starvation and unrest. Rumsfeld, too, circulated “a parade of horrible” things that could go badly wrong in an invasion and afterward.

RESTORING PEACE AND SECURITY
Ironically, the swiftness of victory spared Iraq the worst of those disasters. There was no WMD attack (if indeed Saddam had any WMD to attack with, an increasingly dubious proposition), no massive torching of Iraq’s oilfields, no refugee crisis—all of which the Pentagon had prepared for. Some administration officials say that the CIA and Defense Intelligence Agency predicted postwar terror and guerrilla attacks, but other officials scoff that the intelligence services gave only pro forma warnings and are only now trying to cover themselves. What all this postwar planning stressed, however, was that swiftly restoring peace and a measure of security to postwar Iraq was crucial. Without that, nothing could be done. And “security,” as those White House Viewgraphs show, was the Pentagon’s responsibility.

Gen. Tommy Franks, the CENTCOM commander charged with invading Iraq and securing it afterward, did warn of “catastrophic success,” of winning so quickly and overwhelmingly that the U.S. military would arrive in Baghdad without the forces needed to control the capital. But Franks was preoccupied with fighting the war, not cleaning up the rubble. Organizing for peace was a low priority at CENTCOM: the undermanned planning cell for “Phase Four” (post conflict ops) kept losing officers to other, more urgent war-fighting missions. Rumsfeld and his top aides, meanwhile, saw the issue of postwar security essentially as a trade-off. Send in enough troops to control Iraq, and the United States would risk losing the elements of surprise and speed Franks achieved by going in with a bare-bones invasion force. Besides, military and civilians both agreed that peacekeeping and nation-building were no job for the U.S. military. (National-security adviser Rice hoped that other countries would provide an international constabulary force.) Franks passed down the word at a postinvasion briefing for his field commanders. The first slide began: TAKE AS MUCH RISK COMING OUT AS YOU TOOK GOING IN.

The White House wanted to believe that it could get away with a relatively quick in-and-out operation because American soldiers, Vice President Cheney predicted, “will, in fact, be greeted as liberators.” The bad guys—the worst of Saddam’s Baathist Party—would flee or surrender, but a large middle-class “Mesopotamian bureaucracy” would remain in place to run the country. This notion was pushed by a band of Iraqi exiles, most notably Ahmad Chalabi, who have close ties to the Pentagon neocons—and who stood ready to step in and fill the leadership void. Within a few months, it was hoped, American forces could be drawn down to no more than 50,000 troops.

A VANISHING ARMY AND MISSING MINISTRIES
It was a convenient scenario but, as it turned out, highly unrealistic. The Iraqi Army did not surrender, so it could not be stripped of its officers and reconstituted as “labor battalions” to repair damaged facilities and guard power plants and oil fields. The Army simply vanished. The Iraqi police force turned out to be hapless and corrupt, and it disappeared, too. The Pentagon hadn’t counted on criminal gangs’ systematically tearing apart Iraq’s crumbling infrastructure and smuggling it out to sell abroad. (Saddam had helpfully emptied his jails before the invasion.) U.S. intelligence about Iraq was a little shaky. American officials were even unable to locate some Baghdad ministries. They had the wrong addresses.

There was considerable confusion over who was supposed to be in charge of post-Saddam Iraq. “What do we mean by ‘regime change’ anyway?” General Franks queried Secretary Rumsfeld in the middle of the war. Many CIA and State Department officials were skeptical about Chalabi and the Iraq exiles, insisting (correctly) that they had no popular base of support. The infighting over Chalabi created paralysis, with the White House unwilling to play referee. At the State Department, Deputy Secretary Richard Armitage, Powell’s number two, fought bitterly with the Defense Department neocons, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith, the Pentagon’s third-ranking civilian. Armitage was convinced that the Defense neocons had spies at the State Department. “Bats, we call them. Bats,” said Armitage, in a colorful private harangue reported to NEWSWEEK. “Because they hang upside down all day, with their wings over their eyes, pretending they don’t see anything. But at night they spread their wings and fly off to whisper, whisper, whisper.”

The ideological intrigue reached into the upper levels of the Bush administration. Rumsfeld ordered General Garner to drop a State Department official named Thomas Warrick from his reconstruction team. Garner protested, his aides recall; he needed Warrick, who had been the author of a $5 million, yearlong study called “The Future of Iraq.” Rumsfeld’s reply, as relayed by Garner to his aides, was: “I’m sorry, but I just got off a phone call from a level that is sufficiently high that I can’t argue with him.” Sources tell NEWSWEEK that Rumsfeld was taking his orders from Vice President Cheney. Administration officials say that Warrick was vetoed because he did not get on with Iraqi exile leaders.

Garner was a relatively small fry caught between clashing giants. The retired general, who had been chosen because he had ably handled a refugee crisis in the Kurdish north of Iraq after the 1991 gulf war, understood the importance of moving fast after Saddam collapsed. But when he queried Franks on a timetable for putting his team in place, he was told 60 to 90 days. Too slow, Garner argued, but as it was, his team did not reach Baghdad until 12 days after Saddam fled. Lacking phones and cars, they were isolated and largely helpless.

WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE
In hindsight, General Franks should have immediately declared martial law. But after combat, his men were loath to open fire on civilians running down the street carrying TV sets. And reinforcements of infantry should have been flown in fast. As Franks had foreseen, his troops were largely the wrong kind for occupation duty: armored battalions driving tanks and Bradley fighting vehicles, not light infantry patrolling on foot. But only six companies of military police (less than 2,000 GIs) were provided, and they were slow in arriving. Iraqis were indignant that the Americans could not control what one senior defense official described as “industrial-strength looting.”

Back in Washington, administration officials watched the chaotic images on TV and blamed General Garner. White House officials muttered about “Occupation Lite” and decided that Garner, who was seen strolling about in shirt sleeves and genially chatting with the locals, was a little too chummy with the vanquished. A stronger, tougher proconsul was called for, one who could assert control by purging the government of Saddam’s henchmen. The administration’s man for the job was Paul Bremer, a former aide to Henry Kissinger and a counter terror expert admired by Rumsfeld and other Bushies.

On May 16, five days after he arrived in Baghdad, Bremer assembled the top American officials in Baghdad and announced that all ministries would be “de-Baath-ized” by removing roughly the top six layers of bureaucracy. The CIA’s Baghdad station chief demurred. “We’ll, that’s 30,000 to 50,000 pissed-off Baathists you’re driving underground,” said the senior spook. Bremer went on: the Army would be formally disbanded and not paid. “That’s another 350,000 Iraqis you’re pissing off, and they’ve got guns,” said the CIA man. Said Bremer: “Those are my instructions.”

In an interview with NEWSWEEK last week, Bremer maintained that “the de-Baathification decree is the single most popular thing I’ve done since I’ve been in Iraq.” But it was widely recognized, even by Bremer, that not paying the soldiers was a mistake. Bremer quickly changed course and began cash handouts while trying to reconstitute the Iraqi Army and police. But the damage was done. Particularly in old Baathist strongholds around Baghdad and Tikrit, Saddam’s hometown, guerrillas have been killing American soldiers in ambushes with rocket-propelled grenades and crude but effective homemade explosives.

In time, the Americans will probably crush or at least contain the last of the Baathist holdouts. Using cash incentives, American Special Forces have located and flushed out many of the Baathist hide-holes and safe houses. Religious terrorists are another matter. Intelligence officials believe that Islamic jihadists are gaining strength in Iraq, operating out of mosques and communicating in ways that cannot be traced by electronic eavesdropping devices.

Bush is justifiably popular for his show of resolve since 9/11. But he could stand to show more steel dealing with his warring subordinates. Too often, State and Defense officials refuse to even talk to each other. Rumsfeld has expressed surprise at the poor condition of the Iraqi power grid. It was hardly news, however, to State Department bureaucrats, who had been listening to their counterparts in the United Nations. For years, U.N. officials have been running the Oil-for-Food Program inside Iraq and knew that Iraq’s infrastructure had crumbled badly under Saddam. But because of ideological rivalries between State and Defense and the scorn of the neocons and hard-line conservatives for the United Nations, this information was not shared in the right places. As a result, the Bush administration grossly underestimated the cost of rebuilding Iraq and overestimated the ability of the Iraqis to foot some of the bill through oil revenues.

Who is to blame for the missed signals and too-rosy scenarios? The person charged with coordinating U.S. foreign policy is the president’s national-security adviser, Condoleezza Rice. She likes to say that her national-security staff is not “operational,” meaning that it advises on policy and leaves the implementation to government agencies. White House staffers are now surprisingly willing to dump on the Defense Department for bungling postwar security in Iraq. But for too long, White House staffers kept any qualms private. It is also true that the White House, including the president, signed off on the basic war plan and reconstruction effort.

On the ground, the Coalition Provisional Authority, charged with actually running Iraq until the Iraqis can take over, is the source of increasing ridicule. “CPA stands for the Condescending and Patronizing Americans,” a Baghdad diplomat told a NEWSWEEK reporter. “So there they are, sitting in their palace: 800 people, 17 of whom speak Arabic, one is an expert on Iraq. Living in this cocoon. Writing papers. It’s absurd,” says one dissident Pentagon official. He exaggerates, but not by much. Most of the senior civilian staff are not technical experts but diplomats, Republican appointees, White House staffers and the like.

Some astute foreign observers think that time is running out. “We are losing the consent of the Iraqi people,” warned John Sawers, British Prime Minister Tony Blair’s emissary in Baghdad. “We have until Ramadan [Oct. 27-Nov. 25] to turn it around,” Sawers told American officials in Washington two weeks ago. “After that it will be too late.” At least one old Middle East hand is a pessimist. Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak recently passed a message to Rumsfeld. It ran roughly: “There’s a 5 percent chance you get Saddam tomorrow, the energy goes out of the resistance and things get dramatically better. There’s a 5 percent chance a car bomb takes out the entire Governing Council, and things go to hell. In between those, it will get better over time, or worse over time. Right now, I say it’s twice as likely that it gets worse.” It’s not known how Rumsfeld responded.


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With Richard Wolffe and Mark Hosenball in Washington and Rod Nordland in Iraq

© 2003 Newsweek, Inc.