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To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (29707)10/7/2003 7:52:19 PM
From: t2  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
With the Bush administration, we have a good cop, bad cop situation developing in the world.

As the bad cop, Bush is putting pressure on the middle east countries.

He would rather face a hostile democracy instead of friendly dictatorship. To me that makes perfect sense. If militants get voted in, then they can easily get voted out in those countries if public hates them (a very likely scenario).
...just like Bush.<g>

That explains the pressures against Syria and Iran. The Islamic extremists have veto power over the priminister/parliament.

As I see it, events in the world seem to be unfolding for the next president of the US to be a man of peace. In the meantime, the bads guys have to do the dirty work..and Bush and his gang are pretty nasty. The people of the US and world NEED to see contrast between different US administrations..and now they are getting that opportunity.

So many intelligent people are very worried by all the developments in the middle east.
I am not as concerned as things can change very easily (election of a new president)...and that is why I sense it will all work out good for the long run.

btw--note Bush and Sharon seem very similar and they are in power at the same time! Again with Sharon, Israelis/Palestinians/Middle East all get the opportunity to see that contrast.



To: Karen Lawrence who wrote (29707)10/7/2003 9:36:26 PM
From: Sidney Reilly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Officials Warn of Absentee Vote Factor in Recall Election
By SARAH KERSHAW

Published: October 7, 2003

LOS ANGELES, Oct. 6 — About 3.2 million Californians have requested absentee ballots for Tuesday's recall election, and election officials are growing worried that counting this record number of absentee ballots could drag out the results of an already unwieldy election.

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More than 2 million absentee ballots had been returned to election officials by Monday, state officials said. But about 1.2 million absentee and other ballots will not be counted until well after the election, and officials said on Monday that those votes could decide a potentially close race, raising the specter of an election with no clear winner for weeks.

Of that total, 800,000 absentee ballots and an expected 400,000 ballots that will not be counted until after election night because of anticipated snags will not be included in preliminary results from the counties, said Stephen Weir, the clerk-recorder of Contra Costa County in Northern California and the treasurer of a statewide association of county clerks and registrars.

"If it's close, it's bloody," said Mr. Weir, who estimated that 10 percent to 12 percent of the votes statewide would be counted after election night. "The next day we're dead, and people want to know what's left to be counted, and the bottom line is we're talking about 1.2 million votes that are not counted election night."

There are too many unknowns, including how many of the 15.4 million registered voters will turn out to vote and how the votes will shake out, to predict the influence of the absentee ballots. But Mr. Weir was estimating that 8 million to 10 million voters would turn out, with at least a third of them voting by absentee ballot. County election officials, who said absentee ballots had decided local elections in recent years, said on Monday that if the race was close enough, it could take the counties, who have up to 28 days after the election to count the absentee ballots and certify the election results, several weeks to finalize a tally.

"I think that if the recall question is close, the whole thing could be up in the air," said Janice Atkinson, the assistant registrar of voters in Sonoma County, also in Northern California. Her county has 230,000 registered voters; 94,000 absentee ballots were sent out, with 64,000 returned so far.

Ms. Atkinson added: "We're not enough to throw off the statewide average, but anytime there is a close contest, you can't predict the results until all the ballots are counted and that's not until 28 days after the election in some cases. I think this may be one of those cases."

Over the past few years, a growing percentage of California voters has opted to vote absentee, either through the mail before the election or by turning in completed ballots on Election Day, according to information from the California secretary of state. In 2000, of the 11.1 million voters, 24.5 percent cast absentee ballots; in 2002, of the 7.7 million voters, 27 percent did so. Election officials said they expected that percentage to rise with this election. Absentee ballots take longer to count than ballots cast at the polls because signatures must be verified to ensure that the voter has not already voted and is registered, officials said.

A majority of the absentee ballots, almost two million, had been mailed in as of last week, before news reports about the candidate Arnold Schwarzenegger's past behavior toward women and comments he once made about Hitler.

In California, voters can cast their ballots as early as 29 days before the election, and some voted swiftly for candidates who have since dropped out.. Some voters who did so then tried unsuccessfully to take their ballots back, several county election officials said.

Several county election officials, including those in Los Angeles, the state's most populous county, with four million registered voters, said it was too soon to tell how absentee ballots would affect the outcome of the election. Los Angeles County sent out about 560,000 absentee ballots and may have to count 100,000 to 200,000 in the days or weeks after the election.

San Diego County, which has 1.3 million registered voters, sent out 284,000 absentee ballots and has received 197,000 so far. Officials there predicted that they would have to count up to 100,000 ballots after the election and said the count would begin on Thursday.

"That means that if it's close," said Sally McPherson, the registrar of voters, "there could be up to 100,000 ballots in San Diego that won't even be counted for the first time until two days after the election."

nytimes.com