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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (76821)	10/7/2003 7:34:59 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 82486

"What is funny is that here I am trying to articulate your position for you yet you totally block it and continue to fuss at me for not understanding and for opposing you and Mojo." I do remember you sort of getting it early on and that the thought train was pretty much in sinc. I did give you credit for that, yet realized there were some gaps and some confusion about how that did not add up to agreement. I felt you had some presumptions that did not fit the scenario and were trying to find ways to squeeze them out of mojo…that later became manifest through you and solon. The statement of belief that I attributed to mojo was partly based on your inquiries and partly because I knew that for it to be an issue of conscience there would have to be a core belief that supported it. So I authored a belief statement and have promoted it several times. In looking for my initial statement of belief I was reminded of the volume of information I had shared with you that should have eliminated the need have me deal with solon’s wild extrapolations, at least on your behalf. ”What is even funnier is that you distrusted me for manipulating you, I fessed up to manipulating you, in a good way, of course, you read what I said, and apparently didn't have either recognition or recollection of the actual manipulation I was talking about.” I take it for granted that you focus on thread decorum and seemliness of postings. The post Neocon promoted about your management history drew some additional light to that and gave me a kind of aha about you and him and what is at leas part of what the two of you do. The two caps thing is what got my goat. We’ve already discussed that. ”That's almost as funny as you not realizing for weeks that Neo wasn't agreeing with you.” I don’t know where you got that impression. Certainly not from anything I posted. He was very polite in notifying me that he wouldn’t give mojo a thumbs up on the freedom of conscience issue. There were several posts (mostly from solon) where I was notified that I was all alone and that no one else was seeing the mojo scenario as having merit. I would of course had leaned on Neocon if I thought he had sided with me. I thought he hadn’t gotten the whole picture from me at the time but I was dealing with bigger and more provoking issues at the time. Looking back, it would have been more productive to let the solonists rave on with character assassinations and soap box speeches, in order to stimulate more intercourse with Neocon. I had intended to get back to him when the reasoning had been more flushed out. I was reminded of that when he posted today. And as it turns out, he is totally behind the mojo scenario at this point. It helps to engage people who actually are interested in the reasoning process. ”I'm sorry for laughing but it's all just too bizarre.” You are mistaking nervous giggling for something else. Introspection is not your strength.

To: Lane3 who wrote (76821)	10/7/2003 9:30:28 PM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 82486

As predicted. The courts will defer to 50 million Americans. Court: FTC Can Operate Do-Not-Call List 37 minutes ago By CINDY BROVSKY, Associated Press Writer DENVER - A federal appeals court on Tuesday cleared away a hurdle that has kept the government from fully cracking down on telemarketers who contact people on the national do-not-call list. story.news.yahoo.com

To: Lane3 who wrote (76821)	10/8/2003 2:26:40 AM
From: Solon	Respond to of 82486

"I'm sorry for laughing but it's all just too bizarre." You put a lot of work into that post. There were a lot of links and the proof was evident. That says a lot. I don't really like the part where you say you were trying to get me to cool my jets...but you weren't lying or crapping as an aside like certain phoneys, so I accept it. (but my jets remain hot)!

To: Lane3 who wrote (76821)	10/8/2003 3:56:58 AM
From: Solon	Respond to of 82486

Now this is funny! I prophesized this! And it came true in spades for the entire following day! First we had this: "So we have the harm to Mojo of potentially experiencing lust in his heart weighed against the harm to others of his discrimination" He could have just said that. Sheesh! It is an Islamic religious belief that extramarital sex is illegal and so is participating in any situation which might stir up sexual thoughts and thus might lead to sex. Why couldn't he have just said that he had a religious scruple about touching the skin of a woman other than his wife, and a scruple against touching a homosexual because they are impure or evil--or whatever his mind has wrapped itself around for that one? Presumably, the lust argument is only for women, but who knows? "When I was trying to make the point to Jewel yesterday that the least-harm approach would be for Mojo to massage the most vulnerable clients, the women, as many as he can, to protect them from the less ethical masseurs to whom they would otherwise go, I was stunned that he couldn't get the simple logic of that." Simple logic indeed, until we throw in the premise that touching a woman contaminates his purity in some way. And with his incredible concern for homosexuals it could be like a gay parade leading up to his clinic for wonderful massages without risk of harm! So his whole thing was a farce? It had nothing to do with harm to the client? The clients only were at minimal risk with other therapists--none at all with MOHO the Upright. Yes, this goose chase did last a month, didn't it? I really feel used and angry! I guess I will go get a massage and get "invigorated", as Jewels calls it! :-) _______ Then I predicted this! siliconinvestor.com Yes...the revisions will come but he will need to find rambling and vague language to present it first. Rather than wait for the inevitable, I wil simply state it: His only remaining option which resolves the contradiction inherent in the gay/women/lust argument is to declare (by means of a rambling story with vague language and liberally salted with peaches, pebbles, and ponies) that MOHO feels responsible for the thoughts and the feelings that both gays and women have. That he does not wish to merely limit their control as per the social contract, but he wishes to ensure they will not have sexual thoughts or feelings--at least not while they are on his table. He will ignore the fact that most people have ways and places to turn themselves on and that sex massages are available everywhere to those who are looking for THAT. He will also ignore the fact that it is none of his damned business what other people think or feel. And he will ignore the fact that his presumption that his magic hands are bound to turn-on long-tailed mice while turning off the curly-tailed mice is fallacious--not fellatio. And once we have spent a month pinning that one down, Rambi's intelligence will have shrunk to where it will fit inside a little pea. And the only thing left of mine will be the grin that survived the cat. And as for you...learn to grunt!" Talk about being on the money--LOL!! He fell into it like a rat in a size 12 boot! And poor Neo has charged in seeking his praise from a loser! How strange is life!