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To: sylvester80 who wrote (472615)10/8/2003 12:14:07 AM
From: Srexley  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
"See you at the next recall in March and we'll see how...."

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

You are hilarious tonight sylvestor.



To: sylvester80 who wrote (472615)10/8/2003 12:17:18 AM
From: Gordon A. Langston  Respond to of 769670
 
Message #472615 from sylvester80 at Oct 8, 2003 12:02 AM

Davis got more votes than Arnold.

Arnold's vote is over 100,000 ahead of Davis (the No on the re-call).

Have another drink.



To: sylvester80 who wrote (472615)10/8/2003 12:19:11 AM
From: Thomas A Watson  Respond to of 769670
 
ROTFLOL at ya.... . Asta-la-vista, baby!



To: sylvester80 who wrote (472615)10/8/2003 12:20:29 AM
From: CYBERKEN  Respond to of 769670
 
Tonight: Democrats worried sick about California in 2004...



To: sylvester80 who wrote (472615)10/9/2003 10:46:29 AM
From: Hope Praytochange  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 769670
 
The Democrats returned when one of their own defected, giving Republicans the quorum they needed to do business.

GOP Lawmakers OK Texas Redistricting Deal
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 10:32 a.m. ET

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- State lawmakers reached an agreement on a new congressional map early Thursday after months of resistance from Democrats and infighting among Republicans, a member of Sen. Todd Staples' office said.

A tentative agreement between House and Senate negotiators was brokered Wednesday by U.S. House Majority Leader Tom DeLay during closed-door meetings, ending weeks of Republican squabbling over where to nab more seats.

Details of the redrawn congressional districts were not immediately available but Gov. Rick Perry, Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst and House Speaker Tom Craddick, all Republicans, were expected to discuss it at a news conference later in the day.

The agreement paves the way for a vote Friday in both chambers. Perry is expected to approve the bill once it passes.

The GOP, which controls the Texas House and Senate and holds every statewide elected office, pushed for a new map to increase the state's Republican presence in Washington -- a goal that prompted Democrats to twice flee the state to prevent a vote.

After the Democrats' return, the GOP engaged in its own battle over redistricting, pitting oil interests against agricultural concerns in West Texas.

House Speaker Tom Craddick has been adamant about having a district that would be anchored in his hometown, the oil center of Midland.

But Republican Sen. Robert Duncan has put up fierce resistance, fearing his district of Lubbock -- where farming dominates -- would lose representation.

Both lawmakers were able to rally their colleagues in the House and Senate respectively to their cause, creating the deadlock.

DeLay has been leading the GOP effort to increase the number of Republicans in the state's Congressional delegation.

Democrats, who control the delegation 17-15, wanted to keep current district boundaries and boycotted the Texas Legislature twice this year to block a quorum and kill redistricting bills. House Democrats fled to Ardmore, Okla., in May and stayed away for four days to block redistricting in the regular legislative session.

Senate Democrats went to Albuquerque, N.M., for six weeks beginning in late July to shut down redistricting during a second special legislative session.

The Democrats returned when one of their own defected, giving Republicans the quorum they needed to do business.

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On the Net:

tlc.state.tx.us



To: sylvester80 who wrote (472615)10/9/2003 10:48:10 AM
From: Hope Praytochange  Respond to of 769670
 
Signaling Voter Unrest, Schwarzenegger Cut Deep Into the Democrats' Base
By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE and MARJORIE CONNELLY

OS ANGELES, Oct. 8 — Arnold Schwarzenegger pulled together a vast coalition of dissatisfied voters from across all demographic groups in California's recall election on Tuesday, winning among all age groups and, perhaps most ominously for Democrats, appearing to make inroads into their traditional base, surveys show.

In a major sign of voter unrest in this Democratic bastion, one-quarter of the people who identified themselves as Democrats voted to recall Gov. Gray Davis, a Democrat, and 18 percent voted for Mr. Schwarzenegger, a Republican.

Mr. Schwarzenegger also won 31 percent of Hispanic voters and 17 percent of black voters, doing significantly better with both groups than did Bill Simon Jr., the Republican candidate for governor in 2002.

And despite the last-minute accusations about unwanted sexual advances toward women, Mr. Schwarzenegger narrowed the gender gap that Republicans traditionally face, winning the votes of 49 percent of the men who voted and 43 percent of the women.

The numbers are based on interviews with nearly 4,000 voters as they left the polls conducted by Edison Media Research and Mitofsky International for The New York Times and other news organizations.

In fact, Mr. Schwarzenegger did almost as well with women as Mr. Davis, as measured by the 49 percent of women who supported the Democrat by voting against his recall.

More women tend to be Democratic than Republican, and this is particularly true in California, an overwhelmingly Democratic state. Here, only 36 percent of women describe themselves as Republican, and 71 percent of them voted for Mr. Schwarzenegger. So did 20 percent of Democratic women.

Mr. Schwarzenegger won pluralities of women in all age groups. He did the worst with women under 30, but still got 41 percent of their votes. His strongest supporters were men ages 30 to 44.

In addition, Mr. Schwarzenegger demonstrated enough strength to fend off any criticism that he had become governor with only a minority of the vote. Even with 135 candidates on the ballot, Mr. Schwarzenegger won more votes in favor of his candidacy (4,358,000, with 99.8 percent of the votes counted) than Mr. Davis won against the recall effort (3,541,000). And that was more than the 3,533,490 votes Mr. Davis won last November, when he was re-elected to a second term.

Combining Mr. Schwarzenegger's votes with those for another Republican, State Senator Tom McClintock, about 60 percent of those who voted on Tuesday did so for Republicans — possibly good news for the White House, which now has plausible reasons to see California as up for grabs in 2004, although President Bush's approval ratings in California are at 51 percent, no better than the rest of the country (but no worse, either). Mr. Bush is scheduled to meet with Mr. Schwarzenegger next week.

"The Schwarzenegger campaign excited Republicans, Hispanic voters and union-member households," said Ed Gillespie, chairman of the Republican National Committee. "The Democrat Party and the Democrat presidential candidates should take heed."

Democrats looking for any signs of hope might find them in the fact that Mr. Schwarzenegger's weakest support was among people with advanced degrees and people making less than $50,000 a year. And his assertion during the campaign that he would draw new voters into the party did not materialize significantly. Only 3 percent of voters said they had never voted before, and another 3 percent said they rarely voted. Of those two groups of voters, Mr. Schwarzenegger won about half of them.

The surveys also showed that more than two-thirds of the voters had made up their minds more than a month before the election. As a result, the intense publicity in the last week of the campaign about accusations of Mr. Schwarzenegger's unwanted sexual advances appeared to have had little effect on how women — and others — voted.

Surveys indicate that the sputtering economy remains an overriding concern for California voters.

A full 83 percent said the economy was in bad shape. That number shows a serious erosion of confidence in the state's economic health since Governor Davis was re-elected 11 months ago. At that time, 47 percent perceived the economy to be in bad shape, according to a survey by The Los Angeles Times.

Various surveys have shown that a vast majority of voters believe the state is on the wrong track, an important signal of discontent in electoral politics, and that voters have been alarmed about the state's plunging credit rating, the exodus of more than 100,000 manufacturing jobs and a budget deficit of billions of dollars.

The surveys also suggest that Mr. Davis misinterpreted the economic anxiety in his state or did not appreciate it. This was evident in his signing of a bill to allow illegal immigrants to get drivers' licenses, a move that the survey found was opposed by 70 percent of voters. Interviews with voters have shown that many Californians perceive the drivers' license issues as less a social issue than an economic one. By giving licenses to illegal immigrants, many voters say, the state would attract more illegal immigrants who would be a drain on already strained resources like schools. Mr. Davis had vetoed the measure twice before signing it this summer.