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To: DanZ who wrote (49403)10/8/2003 8:55:09 AM
From: Ron McKinnon  Respond to of 53068
 
my 2 cents on the posts of the last 24 hours

the area I live in is a typical white collar, middle class one dominated by high tech and financial services
I have a reasonably good read on what is going on here

4-5 years ago jobs were plentiful, people could change for more money at will
the stock market was on fire and 401k's were booming
people felt great and spent their paychack with abandon
if need to keep up with the neighbors borowed on credit cards and even against their 401k's
new homes, cars, boats, etc

the last few years saw huge job losses and those who found new jobs typically earned less than before

and found their 401k's become 101k's, some to the point of being under water on their 401k loans

but they kept up the same lifestyle

in 4 years the average house has gone up 50% in value, a condo townhouse 75%, and garden style condos 100%+

with lower rates huge numbers of homeowners refinanced; not just to lower borrowing costs but to "cash" out value to keep spending
or to pay off huge credit card debts

of course they soon ran the credit cards right back up

so now they have taken home equity lines to feed the spending

and all the while bought new cars on 0% financing

it seems like the environment has now stabilized, but still is not strong

but the average person now owes more on debt than at any time in their lives
and if, if, if, rates go through the roof or home values fall, or whatever, than things could get very tough



To: DanZ who wrote (49403)10/8/2003 10:18:47 AM
From: Ron McKinnon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 53068
 
Dan fyi

10:06 ET TOY Toys R Us could see upside to quarter -- Piper Jaffray (13.45 +0.01)
Piper Jaffray believes that TOY is positioned to outperform expectations during the Oct qtr, as the co has completed its store revitalization and continues its business segment reallocation; firm believes their est of ($0.08), which is a penny above consensus, is conservative, and that transition momentum could drive $0.01-$0.03 of upside in the qtr; also, firm thinks upside is likely to their Q4 rev/EPS ests as sales trends continue to improve