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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: The Philosopher who wrote (77072)	10/9/2003 3:24:07 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

"And yes, what you say is clearly a contradiction. I'm surprised that you don't recognize it as such." You have declared it a clear contradiction as has solon by labeling it bigotry. From the very start I gave as much acknowledgement to this view as I could. Now that it is acknowledged are you able to consider a scenario in which women not being served by men is not harmful, offensive, or discriminatory? Since you said 'no' from the start, I am left with nothing but your refusal to consider intelligent discussion on the topic. I offered you a long treatise on harm specifically related to the mojo scenario in which the view point was that there is no harm and especially that the mojo scenario did not qualify as discriminatory. You refused to consider it or respond to the points in that presentation. I offered you a bath house analogy which was fairly close to the actual mojo consideration. You ignored it. Now you can announce all the clear declarations you want. A glass of water with cyanide in appears to be just clear water, too.

To: The Philosopher who wrote (77072)	10/10/2003 6:25:24 AM
From: Solon	Respond to of 82486

"Mojo has put a sign on the door of his business saying "Jewel and Hodgkin's sons may receive service here (as long as they are not homosexuals), but their daughters may not." You want that sign to stay. I want that sign gone. It's really as simple as that." It IS as simple as that. Well said. The sign could have excluded anybody. Jews are not the only people with rights or feelings. MOHO would not have DARED to exclude Jews from his bigotry scenario! But women and homosexuals...ummm? How in the Hell can you harm THEM by discrimination! :-)--LOL!