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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (116672)	10/12/2003 8:49:55 PM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Hi Lazarus Long; Re: "I don't consider DEBKA a reliable source in other areas. Why should I consider it reliable here?" When they report news suggesting that Israel is unfair, you should believe it, LOL. Here's some more links: ‘Orr Panel’ Finds Decades Israeli Discrimination September 4, 2003 In a landmark report, an Israeli commission of inquiry found on Monday a pattern of government “prejudice and neglect” and decades of discrimination against Israel’s more than one million Arab minority, or the Palestinians who were not forced out of their ancestral homeland when the Jewish state was created in 1948, and concluded that police used excessive force in quelling Arab demonstrations in solidarity with the Intifada of their Palestinian brethrens in the West Bank and Gaza Strip three years ago. The report said that insensitivity by the Israeli “establishment” permitted widespread discrimination against Israeli Arabs and the buildup of a “combustible atmosphere,” The New York Times reported on Monday. ... scoop.co.nz Also see, from the point of view of the Arabs: adalah.org arabia.com ... In the early 50s, the then-heads of the Shin Bet security service counseled prime minister David Ben-Gurion to include as many Israeli Arabs as possible in the civil service, including the diplomatic corps. They said Israel should open the universities to them, bring good services to their towns and villages and solve the serious problems created by the 1948 war such as the phenomenon of "present absentees." Those are the Arabs who had fled the fighting by leaving their homes in Jaffa or other Arab towns for the relative safety of being with family in the Galilee or other areas that ended up as part of Israel and who, for years, had been prevented from returning to their original homes which, by then, had largely been used to house incoming Jewish immigrants and Israeli government and public institutions. These people were refugees in their own land. In the early 50s there were several tens of thousands of them. Now there are over 300,000, a figure indicative of how every aspect of the problem in relations between Jew and Arab in Israel has been amplified over the years. Instead of integrating members of the Arab community into the civil service, they were blatantly kept out. Getting into universities was not made easy for them. One can, to this day, count the number of Arab professors at Israeli universities on two hands. Even the Christian Arabs who had left their homes in the villages of Ikrit and Birim during the 1948 war and who were promised by almost every Israeli prime minister -- including Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir and Benjamin Netanyahu -- that they would be allowed to return home, still live in "temporary quarters" in the town of Jish. ... jrep.com Free Republic rant: ... Among the worst features of the Orr Commission Report is its silly finding that Israeli Arabs took to the streets in pogroms against Jews in the fall of 2000 because Israeli Arabs are the victims of discrimination. Gosh, how did the learned commission members know that? ... Here we have the spectacle of an official commission of inquiry chaired by a Supreme Court Justice concluding that Israel is a racist and discriminatory country. ... 209.157.64.200 More links: jta.org The basic problem with Israel is that they don't have a larger community forcing them to be fair. The southern states had their racial crapola removed partly by their own efforts, but mostly due to efforts on the part of the United States itself. This is an advantage of the cosmopolitan nature of the US that Israel simply doesn't have. The next best thing is true pressure from the US on Israel to change, but domestic political considerations have prevented that, at least so far. -- Carl