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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (116699)	10/12/2003 11:36:51 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

<I didn't realize the USA only got rid of such extreme racism in the 1950s.> The last State to repeal their miscegenation law (a provision in their State Constitution prohibiting Black-White marriage) was Alabama. In 1999. 216.239.57.104

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (116699)	10/13/2003 12:17:03 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Mq, talking about Israeli "anti-miscegenation" laws is silly; there is nothing racial in these laws. You can't find a more racially mixed society than Israel, and the Palestinians are not far behind. It has to do with religion, and the control of the Orthodox establishment over the practice of Judaism in Israel, much to the disgust of the 85% of Israeli Jews who are "secular". For various historical reasons, the original Labor founders conceded this control, and the Orthodox have been expert at making themselves into essential swing votes to keep the control. Actually, this expertise just failed them at the last elections, but their power is well established and can only be lessened gradually. And the government of Israel has other matters on its hands right now, or this would be a MUCH bigger issue in Israeli politics. So the practical effect is that the "secular" Israelis demand workarounds for the stuff that really matters to them, like having the State recognize civil marriages done in Cyprus (about a half an hour trip from Tel Aviv). Which is why all the howls of certain parties saying, "see, they have to LEAVE THE COUNTRY! That proves Israel is a Jewish Fundamentalist state just as bad as Saudi Arabia!" are silly too. Interesting scriptural analysis you have there, btw. Anything of worth found in scripture - like "do not steal" -is declared "social" and therefore not scriptual; the rest is "religious" and by definition worthless - have I got the method down?

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (116699)	10/13/2003 4:16:00 AM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 281500

Virginia upheld its anti-mixed marriage statute in the aptly named "Virginia versus Loving" case in 1966, reversed by the US Supreme Court in "Loving against Virginia" in 1967. At that point, all anti-mixed marriage statutes were outlawed, but some "remained on the books," that is, were printed in the statute books but not enforced.

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (116699)	10/13/2003 4:25:59 AM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 281500

BTW, the incense smells really good, and helps put one into a meditative state. There are many different prayer styles for many different personality types. Some people are rational, some emotional. Some are physical, some meditative. Some loud, some quiet. Some pray by work, some by thought. The big religions, like Catholicism, Islam, Hinduism, Judaism, Buddhism, have many different prayer styles to attract and satisfy all types of people. If you're Protestant, and want to pray using candles and incense, or swirling around in circles, or painting yourself and lighting firecrackers, you're out of luck.