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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (12011)10/13/2003 4:00:21 AM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793843
 
My point is, other articles have indicated that they don't dare ask them questions about their religious beliefs. A simple question like, "Are you Wahhabi?", is not allowed.

I think we are in for a shock in Iraq. The best tactic the guerilla/terrorist could use is to take some of our troops hostage. And go after female ones first. The media would blow it up into a catastrophe. They wouldn't have to have a negotiation plan. Just hold them, release tapes of them, and let the pressure build.

I am amazed that this hasn't been done already.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (12011)10/13/2003 4:08:45 AM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793843
 
Here is an article on the Translator problem
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Military cut corners to hire Arab speakers
By Guy Taylor
Published October 13, 2003

The scarcity of Arabic speakers prior to September 11 led to the hiring of risky translators to assist the interrogation of detained al Qaeda suspects, say sources familiar with the military's recruitment of interpreters.
The widening probe into espionage at the Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, detention center raises questions in some quarters about whether the Pentagon was so pressed for Arabic speakers that it relaxed security standards.
The Pentagon's "mission is time-critical and for that reason ... they stretch, they push to get people through the clearance process," says Kevin Hendzel, spokesman for the American Translators Association, an Alexandria-based nonprofit that acts as a liaison between the government and interpreters.
"The risk of that translator getting through has to be weighed against the lack of information that would occur without them."
Peter T. Brookes, a senior fellow for national security affairs at the Heritage Foundation and a former U.S. Navy Russian linguist, says Pentagon officials were faced with drawing "a fine line between operational risk and operational employment to hire these translators."
Beyond the Defense Department, the interpreter shortage within the American intelligence agencies was well documented in December 2002 when a joint report filed by the Senate Select and House Permanent Select committees on intelligence found that before September 11 the intelligence community had "a readiness level of only 30 percent in the most critical terrorism-related languages."
Mr. Brookes says "the fact that we're at war is a critical issue ... If they could screen these people as much as possible, it might take six months. We didn't have six months."
The Pentagon doesn't want to talk about it. Lt. Cmdr. Barbara A. Burfeind, a Pentagon spokeswoman, says that "due to ongoing investigations regarding detainee operations at Guantanamo, it is not appropriate to comment at this time."
Another defense official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, says security clearances vary among military branches. For example, the official says, "a person assigned to the Defense Intelligence Agency would have top secret clearance [but] they might work with a translator who doesn't."
The Guantanamo interpreters arrested or under suspicion for possible espionage may have been involved in sabotaging interviews with detainees by inaccurately translating questions and answers.
Senior Pentagon and Bush administration officials have said valuable intelligence has been pulled from the interrogations. About 660 yet-to-be-charged enemy combatants are held at Guantanamo, the majority of whom were rounded up during the campaign to topple Afghanistan's Taliban government and rid that country of al Qaeda.
Capt. Tom Crosson, a spokesman for the Defense Department's Southern Command that oversees Guantanamo, says "translators and military interrogators are required to possess and maintain a secret clearance."
"In order to be granted a security clearance, personnel must provide ... citizenship status, family history, academic and employment records, credit and character references, and disclose recent foreign travel and contacts with foreign nationals."
The latest arrest in the Guantanamo probe was made Sept. 29 when authorities in Boston apprehended Ahmed Fathy Mehalba, 31, an Egyptian-born U.S. citizen who worked as an interpreter at Guantanamo. He is said to have had in his possession a list of names of suspected terrorists mentioned during interrogation sessions.
Arrested in July was Air Force Senior Airman Ahmad I. al-Halabi, 24, who also worked as an interpreter at Guantanamo. The Pentagon has identified 32 charges against him, accusing him of collecting more than 180 messages from detainees with plans to pass them on to an unidentified enemy in Syria.
Charges are grave against Mr. al-Halabi — one count could carry the death penalty. Charges filed against a third man, an Islamic chaplain held in the spy probe, are less so.
Army Capt. James J. Yee, 35, who was stationed at Guantanamo for the detainees, nearly all of whom are Muslims, is charged with disobeying a general order for improperly handling classified information, but not espionage.
The Pentagon has not said what it believes were the goals of the accused, but the Bush administration fears classified information could get into the hands of terrorists, endangering the lives of Guantanamo guards and jeopardizing national security.
The spy probe has led several congressmen to ask for a thorough review of security at Guantanamo and at other sensitive military bases. Sen. Charles E. Schumer, New York Democrat, has urged Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld to evaluate the Pentagon's background check processes.
"The presumption is that everyone at Guantanamo ... went through some kind of background check," Mr. Schumer said on Sept. 24. "But it is baffling that a chaplain who spent time in Syria, a country on the terrorist watch-list, and was trained by a group with ties to terrorism, would be allowed to serve as a cleric to a bunch of Taliban and al Qaeda."
A representative of Springfield-based contractor McNeil Technologies, a company that provides the Pentagon with Arabic-language interpreters, did not return phone calls seeking comment about security screening.
Wil Williams, spokesman for San Diego-based contractor Titan Corp., which provided the Army with Mr. Mehalba, says the company conducts "very strict screening procedures ... that employment is predicated on them successfully passing a background and security check, which is executed by the government."
While some of the best linguists in the world work for the U.S. military, Mr. Hendzel says that, as a result of the Cold War, emphasis during the last 50 years has not been on Arabic specialists.
"You couldn't throw a stone in the senior officer corps without hitting a Russian linguist," he said.
dynamic.washtimes.com



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (12011)10/13/2003 5:40:35 AM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793843
 
Last part of Sullivan's Sunday column on Arnold. First part was a rehash for the British.
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But now for the remarkable part. Schwarzenegger used his celebrity power to forge a new politics. That politics - the missing element in American life right now - is a blend of fiscal conservatism, social liberalism and foreign policy hawkishness. As governor, Arnold's foreign policy aspect is minimal. But here is a Republican who is pro-choice on abortion, environmentally-conscious, and comfortable with gay people his whole life. But he's also very tough on taxation and very skeptical of excessive government power. When he complained that Californians pay a tax each time they flush the toilet in the morning, he was tapping into deep conservative instincts. But in his transition team, announced last Thursday, he included the left-wing mayor of San Francisco, Willie Brown, and former Michael Dukakis campaign manager, Susan Estrich. He's also married to the Kennedys. This left-right combo plays directly to the new American center. It's far more potent than Howard Dean's bitter Michael-Moore routine. And it's far fresher than Dubya's Texan propriety.

Arnold's election is therefore a cultural as well as a political event. What Arnold represents is best displayed, to my mind, in the classic movie, "Pumping Iron." That movie is about cunning, wit and irony - as incarnated in the larger-than-life figure of an Austrian super-star who is more American than millions of native-borns. But it is also about the 1970s - an era of sexual freedom, bravado, excess and pleasure, especially pleasure. Arnold is far, far more in touch with that ethos - and with the culture of the generations that came after it and have been permanently altered by it - than most contemporary politicians. This color, this cultural sympathy, this comfort with pleasure and irony and laughter, was made even more dramatic in contrast with the dry, political paste represented by Governor Davis.

That Arnold should represent this AND the Republican Party is threatening to all sorts of people: to the joyless, paranoid scolds who run the Dixie-fied Republicans; to the professional political class (although Arnold will likely coopt and manipulate them to no end); to the stale interest-group coalition that is Clinton's Democratic party; and to the new left that likes to believe it has a monopoly on politicians who aren't horrified by sex, drugs and rock and roll. There's no one else in today's Republican or Democratic parties who comes close to this. Who else could enrage both John Ashcroft and Gloria Steinem? Clinton didn't manage it. He is and was a sexually guilt-ridden Rhodes Scholar who desperately associated with Hollywood dreck in order to get some cool rubbed off on him. Hillary's even more frumpily puritan. McCain came close to being real and genuinely cool, but has nothing like Arnold's pop-cultural draw. In this universe, Arnold is a cultural revolution, combining an effortless feel for pop-culture with a tantalizing new blend of politics.

Will it pan out? I don't know. Cynics argue that Schwarzenegger's campaign vagueness was a sign of his complete lack of political competence. We'll see but I doubt it. This is a man who, as the comedian Bill Maher pointed out, has had two careers so far. In the first one, he became the most successful bodybuilder in the history of the sport, not only winning every prize, but transforming the sub-culture into what is now a ubiquitous presence in American pop-culture. It's no exaggeration to say he single-handedly helped change the shape and look of American men. In his second career - movies - Arnold became one of the biggest international stars around, recognized across the world, and raking in millions. To succeed so well in two very different genres bodes well for his next, more complex task. He now has a mandate as huge as his former torso. May he flex it well.
andrewsullivan.com