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To: GraceZ who wrote (39570)	10/13/2003 9:17:47 PM
From: elmatador	Respond to of 74559

Jobless is a person who needs a job to survive and has none. If you have a son and he's a mamone, i.e., he lives like when he was a 7 year old, in your house eats your food, you wash his clothes etc. He isn't jobless even if he is "looking" for a job. If your daughter finished university and doesn't like to face the grim realities of working life, joined the Peace Corps and uses Peru or Kazakhstan as rich kid's play ground, she isn't jobless. If you had a cushy job at Motorola, which your husband got for you when the going was good, you were fired three years ago and you stay at home you are not jobless. If you decided to get a degree in marine biology thinking that you would earn living "saving" the world, and you have no jobs, you are not jobless, you are just stupid. If you are in the college learning forensic science because you were influence by a TV series, you are not going to be jobless; you are going to realize you are as stupid as the guys who graduated in marine biology. If you were fired from a manufacturer of auto parts, which sent production to China, and your livelihood was threatened, you were a real jobless for that time that took to find a new job. Because without a job you could not survive. That's whjy I told pezz that jobless statistics are the easiest ones to ENRON. Where else in the world you'd get that perspective if not in the BBR, hein?

To: GraceZ who wrote (39570)	10/25/2003 2:26:06 PM
From: maceng2	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

AND the exact number IS published on a regular basis I guess my point is that no one in authority is interested in publishing the real numbers. Just like in Britain "spin" is very much in political fashion in the USA. Here is my view of it all. I agree with Flecks POV on this matter. "Spin" just makes me depressed about any real prospects of recovery. fleckensteincapital.com /snippet. Question: I'm not sure why I get so frustrated by this, maybe I should just laugh. But, every week it's the same headline and same last line of the article. Headline: "Weekly jobless claims drop 4000" and last line sneaks in "Previous weekly claims revised upwards 6000". How do these people get away with this? Answer: Because they want to believe all is well and getting better - never underestimate the power of denial. /end snippet.