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To: carranza2 who wrote (116932)	10/15/2003 4:11:31 PM
From: Jacob Snyder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The problem with bombing Saddam's reactor, is not just that it violates Iraq's sovereignty. The problem is, it doesn't work. Has that bombing stopped the steady spread of nuclear weapons into the region? Maybe it slowed the process down a bit. Mostly, it convinced everyone they needed Equalizers for the nukes brandished by the Great Satan, Little Satan, and the Zionist Crusader State. And convinced them to build their nuclear facilities deep underground, in multiple hidden sites, where bombing can't reach them. You could, maybe, convince me that bombing Saddam's reactor was a useful delaying tactic at the time. But those methods were never a permanent solution, and won't work today against Iran or N. Korea. The way to stop the spread of nuclear weapons is: 1. Respect every nation's sovereignty, so they don't have a need for nukes. 2. Don't sell them the materials and technology (duh, but nobody does this obvious method). 3. Don't arm their enemies. U.S. complicity in arming Israel with nukes and the means to deliver them, is a big reason why the surrounding States want nukes. 4. A strict No First Use policy by all nuclear powers. 5. Embargoes, sanctions, blockades, to punish proliferators. 6. gradual disarmament by nuclear powers, turning control of their nukes over to the (reformed) UN, with universal intrusive inspections to verify compliance. 7. a global Marshall Plan, as a carrot for compliance.

To: carranza2 who wrote (116932)	10/16/2003 8:45:36 AM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

> What do you think the Iranians want nuclear weapons for? For the same reason that most people who have guns want them; deterrence and self defense. Let's look at your question again: where would Iraq (and Saddam) be if they had nukes? The answer is a lot more prosperous than they are now. US would have had to find other solutions for its problem than starvation and bombing of Iraqis. And that takes more brains and patience than most politicians have. We now have nuclear wall from Japan to Iran (NK, China, India, and Pakistan). You are trying to stop this at Iran, but you will fail. Nukes are the great equalizer. Any country with sufficient nukes and long ICBMs (or even medium range ones) is assured of being left in peace. This force is simply too great to be fought off. If you really want to stop the spread of WMDs, then you need to find a way that will make them unnecessary. Nothing else will work because so long as there is necessity, there will be inventive solutions for that need. ST