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To: KonKilo who wrote (12474)	10/16/2003 7:50:55 AM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 793622

They really had to eat their words on the original Asner story. I was amazed when I read it, but knew Asner was pretty radical. Turns out not that radical. Here is Mickey Kaus on his new bit, "NeoLiberalism." The last time they tried to means test Medicare, Congressmen were almost run out of their districts. ___________________________________ The quiet victory of 'neoliberalism:' At a breakfast in the spring of 1985, Paul Kirk, then chairman of the Democratic National Committee, suggested "means testing" big government benefit programs--in essence, shaving the benefits of the affluent--as a way to save money. Kirk was forced to eat his words by lunch. ("I should not have mentioned the subject of a means test.") ... We've come a long way. Now House and Senate conferees have reached a "basic philosophical consensus" to apply a type of a means test, based on income, to Part B of Medicare. Nobody has been forced to eat any words--yet. ... P.S.: "Means testing" was a key plank in the platform of "neoliberalism," the philosophy my old boss Charles Peters championed at the Washington Monthly. Today's news on Part B is but another example of why this neoliberal tendency, once exciting and heretical, is now less compelling than it once was: It's less compelling because it's won. slate.msn.com

To: KonKilo who wrote (12474)	10/16/2003 7:57:58 AM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793622

Well how about that. Ed Asner is not as radical as I thought. :0) Good find ShiloCat!

To: KonKilo who wrote (12474)	10/16/2003 8:12:54 AM
From: Tom Clarke	Respond to of 793622

Brit Hume reported the Asner misquote 2 days ago, then had to retract yesterday. You'd think they'd do a little DD over there. But I believed it when it first came out. Nothing Asner says would surprise me...

To: KonKilo who wrote (12474)	10/16/2003 8:27:46 AM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793622

Many conservatives have asked the same question. Stalin is one big damn mystery, I wonder why nobody has tried it?