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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ed Huang who wrote (2394)	10/17/2003 12:44:40 AM
From: rrufff	Respond to of 22250

It is nice that you are finally understanding the error of your ways. Your hatred and bias seem to be blinding you, with only a glimmer of light passing by. I've tried explaining in detail. Let's see if a simple explanation will get through to you. If a pipeline is ever used from the Iraqi oil fields that terminates in Haifa, the oil will be sold for the benefit of the Iraqis. It will be shipped from the port of Haifa. This hypothetical statement, as there is no firm plan to do this at this time just conjecture, does not mean that the oil is being USED by Israel, being STOLEN by Israel. It merely states that Israel will be part of the transportation and shipment of oil There is no difference from the role that Turkey plays or that Syria plays. There are pipelines that go through both nations that have been used in the past. Israel will serve a role in commerce with friendly Arab nations as it already does. It has relations with Morocco, Jordan, Egypt and other nations, some open, some quiet. It's a fact of life. Only you seem to wish to deny this perhaps in a hope that peace never comes to the area, that commerce never continues to benefit all parties in the area. Now what is the problem? Perhaps you need to consult with the ancient Chinese philosopher Confusion?

To: Ed Huang who wrote (2394)	10/17/2003 4:57:16 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 22250

America, the Land of the Freak.... US defends role for evangelical Christian Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington Friday October 17, 2003 The Guardian The Pentagon stepped up to defend the high-level appointment of an evangelical Christian general who has described America's "war on terror" as a struggle between Judeo-Christian values and Satan. Lieutenant General William Boykin, a veteran of the elite Delta Force, is to head the hunt for high-profile targets such as Osama Bin Laden and Mullah Omar as the deputy under secretary of defence for intelligence. But the appointment became a source of embarrassment to the Bush administration yesterday after details emerged of the general's sermons to evangelical Christian groups depicting the "war on terror" as a religious crusade. "We in the army of God, in the house of God, kingdom of God have been raised for such a time as this," Gen Boykin told an audience last year, according to an investigation in the Los Angeles Times. The impression of a Christian holy warrior is reinforced in other speeches quoted by the Los Angeles Times, in which Gen Boykin likens Islamist radicals to the Ku Klux Klan who do not represent the true faith. The general delivered some of his sermons in military uniform. At one event he described a standoff with a Somali warlord in these terms: "I knew my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God, and his was an idol." He also said the George W Bush's presidency was ordained by God. However, President Bush is unlikely to appreciate the bulk of the general's comments, which defy the administration's claims that the campaign against terrorism is not a war against Islam. Yesterday the defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, said Gen Boykin was a fine soldier. Although he told reporters he had not read Gen Boykin's remarks, Mr Rumsfeld said he could not prevent military officials from making controversial statements. Muslim groups in the US said yesterday Gen Boykin's comments go even further, reinforcing the notion in the Arab world that the Bush administration's rhetoric on terror is mere camouflage for a larger project of subduing Muslim and Arab nations. guardian.co.uk