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To: elmatador who wrote (39705)	10/17/2003 2:19:48 AM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

(this one). this man or this decade ? :o)

To: elmatador who wrote (39705)	10/17/2003 3:58:15 AM
From: Seeker of Truth	Respond to of 74559

No,no and no. Space travel with a human being is the wrong way though it makes a satisfactory initial circus. The real achievement will be in robotology. We shouldn't need humans on any assembly line. Manufacturing should be done entirely by engineers who simply monitor progress reports from time to time and devise improvements. Similarly we shouldn't need humans for space exploration. We should be able to send robots to the moon or Mars, have them send messages about conditions there,pick up samples and then return home. The age of effective robots with vision isn't here yet but it will come. Then we can invest in it.

To: elmatador who wrote (39705)	10/17/2003 4:18:14 AM
From: TobagoJack	Respond to of 74559

Hello Elmat, <<I am more for a world space body pooling up all resources>> ... This is probably a good approach, since there is apparently not a lot of gee-whiz science to this space exploration effort (i.e. submarine-like canisters that operate in the vacuum of space, sent aloft on hopefully inexpensive rockets, staged in orbit, and then sent on their way to wherever), but requires a lot of political will, societal support, organizational management, technical nitty-gritty flexibility, affordable financing, sustainable economics, and low cost but reliable manufacturing, so that the aggregation of lowest-bid parts are not of questionable robustness. What space exploration is, for the many parts, not about original science, just as in the cases of Admiral Zheng’s sailings and Columbus’ journeys. However, I sense that your vision is a dream that cannot be, because, (a) there are obviously too many bad sportsmen in this world, who are (b) of the old school, (c) philosophically bankrupt, (d) heavily engaged in eradication of this idea and that thought, (e) highly indebted, and so (f) is over-reaching and (g) if history is our guide, will be burdened to the extend of total distraction, inevitably coming to naught. We live in interesting times, and so very compressed too, with so much information accessible, as we journey towards TeoTwawKi, entertained :0) Chugs, Jay