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To: Ish who wrote (117077)	10/17/2003 7:01:51 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 281500

<Urging those who want to kill our troops is seditious.> Who are you quoting? Anyway, I checked the meaning of seditious and even if Americans supported Iraqi attacks on Americans, that's not really seditious as the dictionary says it's the rebellion against civil authority. dictionary.reference.com So Tim McVeigh was seditious and so was anyone supporting him. But John Walker Linde wasn't. He was over there supporting the Taleban, who were the civil authority in the area, not usurping USA civil authority. That's why the USA can keep people in Guantanamo Bay indefinitely without trial etc. They weren't usurping civil authority in the USA. They were defending their civil authority in Afghanistan. They were ultra vires, being legal jargon for outside the law, cerebus pabulum, ipso facto, casus belli, or something like that. Which begs the question as to whether Guantanamo Bay is American territory or not. It seems to be. If Americans oppose USA military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, that's not seditious. Even if they think it is justified that Iraqis kill Americans, that's not seditious. Even if they actively supported Iraqi killing of American soldiers in Iraq, that wouldn't be seditious. It would be if they did anything within the USA civil administration realm. But I'm not a lawyer, so I don't really know what the legal position would be. But wild accusations of sedition against people who disagree in a democracy are plain silly. Mqurice