To: tsigprofit who wrote (117109 ) 10/18/2003 12:11:28 PM From: Hawkmoon Respond to of 281500 Actually - re-reading your own definition of sedition, I would say that Bush went beyond that standard. He has raised more than a commotion in the US and around the world - much more, wouldn't you have to agree? Interesting tangent... So let's explore whether Bush has committed "sedition" against the UN... Or should it be recognized that Bush merely upheld the UN charter when other nations chose their economic self-interest in supporting a brutal regime over carrying out their obligations under the UN charter.. After all, each of those UNSC resolutions related to Iraq were BINDING. They HAD TO BE enforced by the collective body of the UN, not subverted and manipulated to the benefit of special interests, at the expense of the Iraqi people and peace and stability in the region..He lied about WMD in Iraq. None have been found. This is a fact. He started a war where over 300 US soliders have been killed - and thousands wounded. He lied to the UN, and had Colin Powell do the same. 1.) With only 10% of the 650,000 TONNES (33% of the combined US inventory of munitions in our own military) of estimated weapons inspected by David Kaye, isn't it rather premature to make such an assumption? 2.) Your statement would also assert that UNSCOM and UNMOVIC inspectors LIED as well, since it was THEIR reports and information that Bush and the UN relied upon in declaring Iraq in material breach with UNSC 1441. 3.) The entire regime of Saddam Hussein was a WMD. One only has to look at the hundreds of thousands of victims who have been discovered in mass graves throughout the country. 4.) The entire premise of going to war in Iraq was not to "discover" WMDs. The aim was to ELIMINATE the possibility of their illegal existence in Iraq since Saddam had continuously AVOIDED accounting for all of the weapons his own records recorded as having been produced. Bottom line.. The US has been forced to do the "dirty work" that no other UN member was willing to undertake in upholding the BINDING UNSC resolutions related to Iraq. It was NOT merely the goal of the UN to eliminate WMDs, but rather, to restore peace and stability in the region after the events of Desert Storm. No one can claim that such a result was being accomplished through the use of economic sanctions and US containment of Iraq. If anything, it was making the region MORE UNSTABLE. So maybe you should be asking if the behavior of France, Germany, and Russia, were more appropriate to the definition of "Sedition" against the UN.. Hawk