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To: Bilow who wrote (117117)	10/18/2003 2:51:44 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

That was a fine example of paranoid conspiracy thinking. I, on the other hand, can link your source (i.e. kultursmog.com to some mighty suspicious looking websites. Whois shows that the domain "Kultursmog" is a website run by "Natalie Drest", which is a pitiful made-up name. This may come as a surprise to you, Bilowbut many people don't use their real names on the internet. Because of the ..ahem.. kooks out there. Whatever her name is, it probably isn't Natalie Drest though she may be nattily dressed. Her name may be Jessica. She seems to be a conservative who lives in Midland since she says so and since she posts opinions about things like the Midland Development Corporation etc. on her blog. Now if it were mom and pop out there with a scanner and an old copy of Life Magazine, why would they go through that sort of contrivance? Why not simply put the article up on the weblog that linked it in? You simply have no possible explanation for this, but I do. The administration hack who put the article up used a fake website in order to distance Jessica's Well from the article. You actually think the Bush administration has 'hacks' running fake blogs pretending to be from places like Midland Tx just to post articles from 1946? As to the use of two websites, I note that thereby she was able to put only an excerpt on her blog saving space there while putting the full article on her kultursmog site. If she were trying to hide something as you imagine, would she have that a link to "Jessica's Well Main Page" on the kultursmog site? I don't think so. The article appears to be genuine. You can buy a copy if you think it isn't: March 11, 1946 Senator Vandenberg. Report on Occupation by Dos Passos, Hormel - The Spam Man Close-up, Zany Radio, “Make Mine Music”, 33 Senators Face Reelection photo essay – 4 copies G/VG $15.00 pastpaper.com I thought it was fascinating to see that in a major media piece in 1946 you could read that are so reminiscent of what one can read today: “We’ve lost the peace,” men tell you. “We can’t make it stick.” .... Friend and foe alike, look you accusingly in the face and tell you how bitterly they are disappointed in you as an American. They cite the evolution of the word “liberation.” .... Never has American prestige in Europe been lower. People never tire of telling you of the ignorance and rowdy-ism of American troops, of out misunderstanding of European conditions. .... They tell us that our mechanical de-nazification policy in Germany is producing results opposite to those we planned. “Have you no statesmen in America?” they ask. .... We have swept away Hitlerism, but a great many Europeans feel that the cure has been worse than the disease. Some things never change.

To: Bilow who wrote (117117)	11/7/2003 5:45:31 PM
From: sylvester80	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

NEWS: Jessica Lynch: Bush's military manipulated story msnbc.com ASSOCIATED PRESS PALESTINE, W.Va., Nov. 7 — Former prisoner of war Jessica Lynch said the U.S. military was wrong to manipulate the story of her dramatic rescue and should not have filmed it in the first place. THE 20-YEAR-OLD private told ABC’s Diane Sawyer in a “Primetime” interview to air Tuesday that she was bothered by the military’s portrayal of her ordeal. “They used me as a way to symbolize all this stuff,” she said in an excerpt from the interview, posted Friday on the network’s Web site. “It hurt in a way that people would make up stories that they had no truth about,” she said. She also said there was no reason for her rescue from an Iraqi hospital to be filmed. “It’s wrong,” she said. The former Army supply clerk suffered broken bones and other injuries when her maintenance convoy was attacked in the Iraqi town of Nasiriyah on March 23. U.S. forces rescued Lynch at a Nasiriyah hospital April 1. ‘I DID NOT SHOOT’ Early reports had Lynch fighting her attackers until she ran out of ammunition and suffering knife and bullet wounds. Military officials later acknowledged that Lynch wasn’t shot, but was hurt after her Humvee utility vehicle was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade and crashed into another vehicle. Lynch told Sawyer she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, and that her gun jammed during the chaos. “I’m not about to take credit for something I didn’t do,” she said. “I did not shoot, not a round, nothing ... I went down praying to my knees. And that’s the last I remember.” Lynch said she was terrified and feared for her life during her time in the Iraqi hospital, and didn’t believe she was being rescued until she was being evacuated in a U.S. helicopter. Then, Lynch said, she felt, “My God, this is real. I’m going home.” Footage of the rescue was aired repeatedly on television networks reporting how a special forces team bravely fought into and out of the hospital. “I don’t think it happened quite like that,” Lynch said. But she praised the soldiers who rescued her. “They’re the ones that came in to rescue me. Those are my heroes ... I’m so thankful that they did what they did. They risked their lives. They didn’t know, you know, who was in there.” NO MEMORY OF RAPE On Thursday, newspaper reports revealed Lynch had been raped during her capture. The assault was revealed in Lynch’s authorized biography — “I am a Soldier, Too: The Jessica Lynch Story.” The 207-page book will be released by publisher Alfred A. Knopf on Tuesday, Veterans Day. According to the newspapers, the rape was documented by medical records. Lynch told Sawyer she has no recollection of the attack. “Even just the thinking about that, that’s too painful,” she said.