To: philv who wrote (19380 ) 10/20/2003 12:41:37 PM From: sea_urchin Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 81900 Phil > A hint of things to come? Without any doubt --- and worse. Unquestionably, the outlook for ordinary people is grim. > I have not yet fully accepted the premise that "they" are in total control; that "they" know what they are doing and will not fail. That's only my opinion, and I'm not clairvoyant. But the game is world-wide and every country is playing it. Anyway, please don't get me wrong, I'm not for an instant suggesting that, because my opinion may differ from yours, that I know exactly what to do about our predicament. All I do know is that one must be as vigilant as possible, consider every eventuality, and do as much homework as one can, and not be suckered by quick-fix solutions or "snake-oil" salesmen. If one thinks about what is happening it's actually incredible. Here's the Secretary of Finance, John Snow, saying that all growth means is consumption, and the more money one spends the more growth there is. And the more money one spends, the more jobs there are. But, what is even more amazing is how the economists will accept all this and will soon be saying that the US economy has "recovered" and is "growing". Blah, blah. The situation is identical to what we saw on 9-11 where they fly their own planes into their own buildings and then blame a guy living in a cave on the other side of the world as the mastermind. Or, they grab Iraq by "proving" Saddam had WMDs when all he had was Sweet Fanny Adams. And, it's actually incredible, indeed mind-boggling, how people believe these lies over and over and over. And will even fight and give up their lives in defence of the liars and what they say. The human is truly an amazing creature.