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To: tejek who wrote (479124)	10/21/2003 1:39:55 AM
From: DavesM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

re: "Your discussion above shows how little you understand what's going on in the Middle East. First of all, why would OBL put Iraq on his topline talking points? OBL is a product of Whahhabism, a strict and purintanical form of Sunni Islam. Saddam was a 'liberal' Sunni who was secular. A Whahhabi Sunni like OBL would hate a man like Saddam almost as much as he would hate an American...Stupid is as stupid does" Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders World Islamic Front - 23 February 1998 - Shaykh Usamah Bin-Muhammad Bin-Ladin Ayman al-Zawahiri, amir of the Jihad Group in Egypt Abu-Yasir Rifa'i Ahmad Taha, Egyptian Islamic Group Shaykh Mir Hamzah, secretary of the Jamiat-ul-Ulema-e-Pakistan Fazlur Rahman, amir of the Jihad Movement in Bangladesh "...First, for over seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places, the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the neighboring Muslim peoples. If some people have in the past argued about the fact of the occupation, all the people of the Peninsula have now acknowledged it. The best proof of this is the Americans' continuing aggression against the Iraqi people using the Peninsula as a staging post, even though all its rulers are against their territories being used to that end, but they are helpless. Second, despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi people by the crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite the huge number of those killed, which has exceeded 1 million... despite all this, the Americans are once against trying to repeat the horrific massacres, as though they are not content with the protracted blockade imposed after the ferocious war or the fragmentation and devastation. So here they come to annihilate what is left of this people and to humiliate their Muslim neighbors...." "...On that basis, and in compliance with Allah's order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims: The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military --" fas.org

To: tejek who wrote (479124)	10/22/2003 1:16:42 AM
From: Dan B.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Re: "First of all, why would OBL put Iraq on his topline talking points? OBL is a product of Whahhabism, a strict and purintanical form of Sunni Islam. Saddam was a 'liberal' Sunni who was secular. A Whahhabi Sunni like OBL would hate a man like Saddam almost as much as he would hate an American. What foolishness you prattle on about." Now the above, is PRATTLE! Why don't you ask Osama why he HAS put Iraq on his talking points list since at least '98. I take it you just aren't aware of the fact, and in your ignorance write as if I've made it up while you purport to know how Osama feels and apparently give no creedance to the common ground hatred for America the two men share. Funny. So go look, and explain it to me if you are so knowledgeable, LOL. Re: "al Qaeda gains in strength" Highly unlikely, despite however sure you are that "we have improved OBL's recruiting efforts a hundred fold." LOL. Dan B.