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To: KLP who wrote (13342)	10/22/2003 7:02:48 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 794497

The left is pandering to those they believe are the mass...I want to believe that the "mass" is smarter than some of the elitist Dems believe. Both parties have elements in their bases that, if allowed to dominate, would not serve the country well. I was speaking of one of them, one that happens to be in the Republican Party and one that seems to me to be too strong right now. Hopefully you are right and that element doesn't dominate go the extent that it seems to this outsider. Other insiders have argued that point with me as well so perhaps you are right. From where I sit, though, they look pretty scary. My interest is in having a light touch from government. Right now the interest group of which we were speaking is the greatest threat to that. I was picking on them only because that was the subject at hand and because they seem to be on the rise right now. Other equally problematic base groups such as unionists, gender feminists, and identity-politics advocates of all stripes are not as troubling at the moment because they are on the wane, hence my attention to the religious right. I am not a partisan. Since Republicans can no longer be relied on for a light touch, my preference in Washington is gridlock so that neither base can get what it wants. Yes, your point was made some time ago. We just disagree. We apparently disagree that the group in question is a threat. I imagine you are a better judge of that than I so your assertion is of some comfort to me. It seems that we do not disagree, though, that their agenda is problematic, but rather on the likelihood of it being implemented. I kept restating because it was not clear to me earlier that you were seeing the difference I saw between expression and advocacy on issues based on personal religiosity and advocating a religious movement.

To: KLP who wrote (13342)	10/22/2003 9:54:29 AM
From: Sunny	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 794497

"They are a stronghold of the Republican party." I believe that conservative Christians are looking for politicians that espouse and vote a point of view that most closely resembles their values. Clearly, the Republican party most closely matches our beliefs. The 10 Commandments formed the basis for all laws in Western Civilization. Those laws were designed for the individuals and the communities best interest. Duet 6:18 says, "Do what is right and good in the Lord's sight, so that all will be well with you." Jesus told us "The first and greatest commandment was to Love our God and that the second was to love our neighbor as ourselves. Upon these 2 commandments hang all of the law." I can guarantee you that true Christians demonstrate their faith and values through actions. A belief in the Word of God, as found in the Bible is the basis for our values. That, while you might not agree with those actions, it is based upon love and accountability. We seek to hold those we help elect accountable for acting upon the promises they made when they campaigned. In the past 40 years we have migrated to "If it feels good do it." And other self seeking points of view. This has become the basis for the situational ethics and morality that forms the basis for much of the political debate between the 2 parties today. Sunny