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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (70875)	10/22/2003 12:24:21 PM
From: zonder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

Is honor killing different but not necessarily bad? Killing a person, whatever the reason, is "bad" in my book. That includes state-sanctioned killing, which I believe your country still practices at this day and age. What I am trying to say is that judging a culture/society/nation and its way of life by a few horror stories you pick and choose. Honor killings happen in the least educated and most conservative places of the Middle East. It is certainly not common practice everywhere. There was one such honor killing in Southeastern Turkey that I read about a few months ago, but in Turkish cities, girls and boys hold hands & kiss in the streets and nobody kills anyone. I am trying to tell you that judging a whole culture on a couple of incidents you read in a paper does not give you a correct impression of that culture. Yes, "honor killings" are "bad". No, that doesn't make the Middle East a horrible place. There are examples of conservative communities killing their own because of their belief systems/traditions everywhere. Amish refuse vaccinations and their kids die as a result. Now isn't that "bad"? Yes. Does that make America a horrible place? No. Wife beating? I hope you are not trying to say wife-beating happens only in the Middle East.

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (70875)	10/22/2003 12:58:12 PM
From: zonder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

Just remembered another example of tradition/belief systems killing people: I had a close friend in high school. She never smoked a single cigarette in her short life but was diagnosed with lung cancer in university. She needed a transplant of heart AND lungs at the same time. The trick was that the donor had to be alive as this operation was performed. And her blood type was pretty rare. Finally, a young & famous guy had a motorcycle accident. He was technically alive, but brain dead. He had her blood type. He was the ideal candidate for her. We tracked down his family, waited outside the hospital to talk to them. Finally we talked to his wife's brother. They refused. Because, they said, in the Jewish religion, your body should be buried intact. No parts should be missing from it. He died a few days later. My friend died a month after him. Ironically, she was Jewish, too. I stayed with her in her final months. It was not a pretty sight. Especially at night, as she tried to sleep sitting up, because breathing was next to impossible while lying down...