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Politics : Israel to U.S. : Now Deal with Syria and Iran -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (2650)10/22/2003 4:28:57 PM
From: Scoobah  Respond to of 22250
 
WHAT NONSENSE!!!, "Few disputed at the time that Israel was a factor that pushed Bush to go to war on Iraq."

The war on Iraq had as mush to do with Israel as did the first war on Iraq.

Maybe it had to do with Saddam trying to kill George's father?



To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (2650)10/22/2003 4:40:20 PM
From: Scoobah  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 22250
 
complete drivel:

Sharon wouldnt send the IAF over Syrian terror-tory, without approval from the US.

The US wouldnt approve it, if Syrians werent killing US servicemen in Iraq.

the day of the dictator in the ME has hopefully come to an end.

the Saudi's accepting the nukes from Pakistan will lead to their death;
those nukes will never be deployed.



To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (2650)10/22/2003 5:35:45 PM
From: Machaon  Respond to of 22250
 
You wrote:<font color=blue>"The ‘Israelization’ of the United States"<font color=black>

How about the 'Muslimization' of the entire world, including the US?

You complain because America stands by her close friend Israel. Israel has stood by America's side, as a close friend for decades.

Who do you prefer over Israel, Saudi Arabia? Do you realize that Saudi Arabia teaches hatred towards Christians and Jews in their schools and Mosques, and that it was mostly Saudis who attacked America on 9/11?

As Muslim Imperialism grows and becomes a more dangerous threat to America and Europe, Israel's friendship becomes even more important. Tiny Israel was able to win FIVE wars against the huge Arab armies.

The Arabs can't fight like real men so they have to strap bombs to their kids bodies, and then send their children into battle.

Why do you stand with the Arabs against America?



To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (2650)10/22/2003 5:39:59 PM
From: Ed Huang  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 22250
 
BuSharon

palestina.int.ar



To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (2650)10/22/2003 6:36:43 PM
From: Scoobah  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 22250
 
Dear World,

It appears that you are hard to please. I understand that you are upset over us here in Israel. Indeed, it appears that you are quite upset, even angry and outraged. Indeed, every few years you seem to become upset over us. Today, it is the brutal repression of the Palestinians; yesterday, it was Lebanon; before that it was the bombing of the nuclear reactor in Baghdad and the Yom Kippur War campaign. It appears that Jews who triumph, and who therefore, live, upset you most extraordinarily.

Of course, dear world, long before there was an Israel, we the Jewish people upset you. We upset a German people, who elected a Hitler and we upset an Austrian people, who cheered his entry into Vienna and we upset a whole slew of Slavic nations - Poles, Slovaks, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Russians, Hungarians, Romanians.

And we go back a long, long way in history of world upset. We upset the Cossacks of Chmielnicki, who massacred tens of thousands of us in 1648-49; we upset the Crusaders, who on their way to liberate the Holy Land, were so upset at Jews that they slaughtered untold numbers of us. We upset, for centuries, a Roman Catholic Church that did its best to define our relationship through Inquisitions. And we upset the arch-enemy of the church, Martin Luther, who in his call to burn the synagogues and the Jews within them, showed an admirable Christian ecumenical spirit.

It is because we became so upset over upsetting you, dear world, that we decided to leave you - in a manner of speaking - and establish a Jewish State. The reasoning was that living in close contact with you, as resident-strangers in the various countries that comprise you, we upset you, irritate you, and disturb you. What better notion, then, than to leave you and thus love you - and have you love us? And so we decided to come home, to the same homeland from which we were driven out 1,900 years earlier by a Roman world that, apparently, we also upset.

Alas, dear world, it appears that you are hard to please. Having left you and your Pogroms and Inquisitions and Crusades and Holocausts, having taken our leave of the general world to live alone in our own little state, we continue to upset you.

You are upset that we repress the Palestinians. You are deeply angered over the fact that we do not give up the lands of 1967, which are clearly the obstacle to peace in the Middle East. Moscow is upset and Washington is upset. The Arabs are upset and the gentle Egyptian moderates are upset.

Well, dear world, consider the reaction of a normal Jew from Israel. In 1920, 1921 and 1929, there were no territories of 1967 to impede peace between Jews and Arabs. Indeed, there was no Jewish State to upset anybody. Nevertheless, the same oppressed and repressed Palestinians slaughtered hundreds of Jews in Jerusalem, Jaffa, Safed and Hebron. Indeed, 67 Jews were slaughtered one day in Hebron in 1929.

Dear world, why did the Arabs - the Palestinians - massacre 67 Jews in one day in 1929? Could it have been their anger over Israeli aggression in 1967? And why were 510 Jewish men, women and children slaughtered in Arab riots in 1936-39? Was it because of Arab upset over 1967? And when you, World, proposed a U.N. Partition Plan in 1947 that would have created a Palestinian State alongside a tiny Israel and the Arabs cried and went to war and killed 6,000 Jews - was that upset stomach caused by the aggression of 1967? And, by the way, dear world, why did we not hear your cry of upset then?

The Palestinians who today kill Jews with explosives and firebombs and stones are part of the same people who - when they had all the territories they now demand be given them for their state - attempted to drive the Jewish State into the sea. The same twisted faces, the same hate, the same cry of "idbah-al-yahud" - "Slaughter the Jews!" that we hear and see today, were seen and heard then. The same people, the same dream - destroy Israel.

What they failed to do yesterday, they dream of today - but we should not "repress" them. Dear world, you stood by the Holocaust and you stood by in 1948 as seven states launched a war that the Arab League proudly compared to the Mongol massacres. You stood by in 1967 as Nasser, wildly cheered by wild mobs in every Arab capital in the world, vowed to drive the Jews into the sea. And you would stand by tomorrow if Israel were facing extinction.

And since we know that the Arabs-Palestinians daily dream of that extinction, we will do everything possible to remain alive in our own land. If that bothers you, dear world, well - think of how many times in the past you bothered us.

In any event, dear world, if you are bothered by us, here is one Jew in Israel who could not care less.