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To: aladin who wrote (117423)	10/22/2003 5:33:23 PM
From: marcos	Respond to of 281500

Many germans died following their surrender, to my knowledge none from combat or guerrilla activity ... great majority of deaths were in russian controlled territory, largest cause there was the shooting and/or deliberate starvation of prisoners, i believe .... largest cause in UK-US-Can zone was hunger, second was disease .... a good deal of both happened in prison camps, where surviving german military was being held .... there is a book on this, published around ten years ago, it is called 'Other Losses' and details a number of atrocities committed against imprisoned soldiers Number of occupation troops shot by partisans - 0 ... to my knowledge [edit] - 'Other Losses: The Shocking Truth Behind the Mass Deaths of Disarmed German Soldiers and Civilians Under General Eisenhower's Command by James Bacque, Ernest F. Fisher ' amazon.com ' This book clears up questions I've had, June 18, 2002 Reviewer: jbrennick from NJ, United States I remember being shocked to see on a town memorial marker that one of my WWII-casualty great-uncles on my German side (my father is Irish, mother from Germany), had actually died in October 1946, a full year and a half after the end of the war. I was then informed this one, Willi Kurz, had starved to death in a camp in France (after surviving years of hellish war), survived by his wife and young daughter.'

To: aladin who wrote (117423)	10/22/2003 6:45:47 PM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Hi John Cavanaugh; Re: "How meek were the occupations of Germany and Japan? How many died after surrender?" There was zero resistance in Germany during the *postwar* occupation. Note that I emphasize "postwar", which means after Germany surrendered. There was some guerilla activity behind the lines while the fighting was still going on. A good source is the following web published book, with pictures: THE U.S. ARMY IN THE OCCUPATION OF GERMANY 1944-1946 Earl F. Ziemke, First Printed 1975 CENTER OF MILITARY HISTORY UNITED STATES ARMY WASHINGTON, D. C., 1990 army.mil Go ahead and read it. I did. It's 459 pages long. Not a single US KIA in the entire postwar occupation. Zero. But plenty of references to how meekly the Germans accepted their new masters. -- Carl