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To: Dayuhan who wrote (13459)10/23/2003 12:20:49 AM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 793563
 
I believe the linear relationship that tax cuts always result in lost revenue is a tactic of the left Steven.

The same simple causal relationship you complain about is what you've done with this statement.

“Tax less, spend more”, which is what we have now, is no better.

During a time of war, taxing less and spending more may create the long term conditions of a stronger economy. Many factors will have to be looked at, including whether the tax cuts created the conditions in which revenue increased.

Although you discount it as a causal relationship, your assumption seems to be tax cuts do not cause more revenue.



To: Dayuhan who wrote (13459)10/24/2003 10:52:26 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Respond to of 793563
 
The statement that “lowering taxes raises revenues” is patently ridiculous. It is true that in some circumstances a reduction in taxes could contribute to economic growth and therefore to an increase in revenues.
You do understand that the first sentence contradicts the second, right? And that facts cited in that post also contradict it?

The question is not whether there is some universal rule defining the relationship between revenue and taxation, but what is the appropriate level of government spending at any given point in time, and what tax structure is best suited to generate the revenues necessary to support that spending.
THis is almost never the debate with liberals. The debate is always whether their latest pet cause gets funded or not.

The recent tax cut was, I think, justified, given the macroeconomic environment and the need to provide material and psychological support for a recovery that was, at the time, quite weak. It is arguable, though unpopular, that the skewing of the benefits of the cut toward the wealthy was legitimate: the wealthy are more inclined to invest their surplus income, and the stock markets did need a kick-start.
Therre are people on your side of the political debate who would happily hand you your head for saying that.

(It could also be argued that skewing the cuts to benefit the working class would generate a larger marginal increase in consumer demand, but this is not the place for that argument).
Legitimate point.

I also believe as a matter of principle that the cut should have been accompanied by proportional spending cuts, including cuts in the military budget, which could, I believe, be made at a substantial level without impairing the nation’s ability to defend itself.
Given thhat the country is at war, and that internal security MUST be increased, that is not practical.
Also, cutting spending when the economy is weak, according to Keynesian theory, is exactly the OPPOSITE of what needs to be done and will make the slump worse.

The tax cut will be one of many contributing factors in an economic recovery, and no one of those factors can be designated as “the cause” of increased revenues.
Except that it keeps working.