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Pastimes : Prophecy -- HYPE or HOPE? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (2251)	10/23/2003 2:04:15 AM
From: Cyprian	Respond to of 5569

Well what I think will not convince you. I know that already and I really don't want to argue about it. But I will hit the high points once for you. i'm genuinely open to differing interpretations, considering how there is far more about prophecy that i don't know than that which i do know. I think the fact that people say the US is not in Revelation prophecy is because they are blinded and don't see that the US is actually transformed into the beast. i don't disagree with this at all. you've never heard me state that the united states doesn't serve a role in bible prophecy. The beast wages war against the saints and kills them. Who is drunk with the blood of the saints? How many saints do you think are in Israel and Jerusalem? well here is where things get a little more complicated. you see there are the preterists who like to think that practically all bible prophecy was fulfilled by the time of the destruction of the temple in 70 a.d. you also have the historicists who love to make everything revolve around rome and the catholic church. then you have the futurists who like to take already fulfilled prophecies and twist them to make everything apply to the end times. (which of course most of them believe we are in). i seem to fall into the camp that believes there could be dual fulfillment of prophecies, meaning a near-term fulfillment relating to the destruction of jerusalem, and also a later fulfillment that will mark the second advent of Christ. How many are in the United States? Millions. If your going to be drunk with their blood you'll have to kill a lot of saints. So where are the saints? i don't think this viewpoint contradicts anything i have said. jerusalem (apostate israel)--Christ's original bride turned whore, became the mother of harlots and remains so to this day two thousand years later. this apostate or false religious system continues to operate to this day as talmudic judaism--the religion of modern so-called "jews". this modern-day antichrist religion is just a reworking by the original antichrist jews who have the blood of Jesus and the saints on their hands. nothing has changed. talmudic judaism still remains the greatest persecutor of christians to this day and is spiritually centered in jerusalem. Well what do you think of that much, and I haven't spouted one scripture. I don't have to. I'm just challenging you to think. i welcome challenges to my thinking as long as they aren't centered on trivial matters that take the focus off the Word of God.