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To: TobagoJack who wrote (40036)	10/23/2003 7:07:56 AM
From: elmatador	Respond to of 74559

<<future lies not in the United States, but on the other side of the Pacific, where there is demand for food.">> <<"Before, Brazil and Argentina had to dance to the tune of the G-7 because they were the only markets for their products, but all that is changing," said Walter Molano, chief Latin American economist at BCP Securities in Greenwich, Conn. Now, he said, "South America is realizing that the future lies not in the United States, but on the other side of the Pacific, where there is demand for food.">> And Bush can't send in the Marines. Of course a policy of confrontation is not good for anyone and a compromise will be reached. But things have changed indeed.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (40036)	10/23/2003 7:22:19 AM
From: Condor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

I am with with the tribe that believes all metals will rise, the gap between Pt and Pd will close, and that cash is being trashed, and so I am open to new ideas ;0) With Ni. prices at levels I haven't seen for years ( US $5/lb ) and Cu. at 3 yr. highs, it would seem you are right. China has no domestic supply of Ni. BTW. Canadian producers Inco ( NYSE:N ) and Falconbridge Ltd.( T:FL ) are benefactors. metalprices.com Also, surely the spread between Pt and Pd ( $ 700+ vs. $ 200 ) will bring auto makers to turn to Pd. Fuel cells BTW are high in Pt Pd content so the advent of fuel cells vs. combustion engines (catalytic converters) should not pose a problem to these two metals. C

To: TobagoJack who wrote (40036)	10/23/2003 7:24:32 AM
From: elmatador	Respond to of 74559

OT 'Le string' faces school ban as French fear sex abuse of girls Paul Webster in Paris Sunday October 5, 2003 The Observer A hundred metres from the lycé e at La Celle Saint-Cloud in the Paris suburbs, the street poster for Sloggi's skimpy underwear could hardly be more cheekily positioned. With a national debate raging over girls wearing le string to school, the poster focuses on the bottoms of three adolescent girls writhing like go-go dancers in barely there underwear. The high school is among hundreds of French colleges discussing whether the craze for G-strings has gone too far and is exposing girls as young as 10 to potential abusers. Pupils in France's state schools can choose their own clothes as long as they are decent. But a high school that ordered girls to cover up was faced with a near-riot last week that recalled rebellions 30 years ago when female students demanded the right to wear trousers. Bizarrely, the cover-up issue is running parallel to a campaign to force Muslim girls to abandon headscarves. A former Education Minister, Segolene Royale, whose partner, François Hollande, runs the Socialist Party, raised the alarm after a meeting with parent-teacher associations who had expressed concern that the fashion craze could incite crime. 'Many headteachers have banned the accessory altogether, which is a very good thing,' said Royale, a mother of four. 'As far as boys are concerned, the string reduces young women to little more than their bottoms. Bodies are being exposed like vulgar merchandise. We shouldn't be surprised if girls are being sexually harassed or subjected to sexual violence.' Backed by three other women MPs, Royale yesterday called on Sloggi to withdraw its poster campaign on the ground that the posters were 'an insult to women'. The problem lies in the way a supposedly discreet undergarment is commonly worn. Encouraged by fashion ads, girls make a point of wearing low-slung jeans and cropped T-shirts so that their G-strings are exposed. But the risks in imposing a ban were underlined at the Ribeauville lycée in Alsace, where 10 girls were told to change their clothes because of what was considered an indecent gap between jeans and T-shirt that left their midriffs in view. Three days later 100 girls besieged the headmistress's office and claimed the right to wear whatever they wanted. The head, Claudine Wendling-Brickert, said she was ready to accept that girls showed off their navels 'but not in my high school'. Teachers have been told to pick out offenders and warnings have been stuck on classroom doors. At La Celle Saint-Cloud, which has yet to agree on a formal ban, students said they did not think that strings were provocative. 'Some of those in terminal - the top form - are 19 years old,' said Katherine Lebras, 17. 'They should be allowed to wear what they like, just as you do at university. Strings are just fun - they're not a come-on.' But parents like Royale are particularly worried about the dangers to pre-teenagers and recently forced a manufacturer to withdraw a brand aimed at 10-year-olds. There is no chance, though, of the fashion dying out in the face of erotic street advertising campaigns. France's best known popular brand of lingerie, Dim, has doubled production in a year, selling 1.3 million strings in supermarkets alone. L'Institut Français de la Mode said the rush to buy the flimsy garment had boosted sales of feminine underwear by 12 percent. 'I don't think parents and teachers can stop even pre-adolescents wearing these things - they seem to think it's a laugh,' an assistant in the Galeries Lafayette lingerie department said.