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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (78267)	10/23/2003 2:59:58 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

That's not the way it works, though. My points are central to what I'm talking about. I think you are talking about something completely different- please see my sentence where I talk about the kid who really needs to be taught more- that is the kid who cannot meet the standards. Standards are met by most of my students. The point is, teachers fail them anyway, for getting in the work late, or failing to get enough work in, even though the students clearly know what the legislature WANTs them to know. That's the problem.

To: Lane3 who wrote (78267)	10/23/2003 3:18:42 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 82486

Browsing around today, I wrote down two books I would like to read. One is Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman. (Postman's theme is the decline of the printed word and the ascendancy of the "tube" with its tendency to present everything- murder, mayhem, politics, weather as entertainment. The ultimate effect, as Postman sees it, is the shriveling of public discourse as TV degrades our conception of what constitutes news, political debate, art, even religious thought). He has written a lot of books about education- another that looks interesting is Teaching as a Subversive Activity which sounds like something X might have written. The other is -- don't laugh-- The World According to Mr. Rogers

To: Lane3 who wrote (78267)	10/24/2003 12:16:14 AM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 82486

There are standards for passing a course. Uh, Karen,that was once true. Schools have changed. Now it's virtually impossible to fail anybody in a course because it will bruise their egos. If they find the work too hard, they go into the special education track, where they are, IME, given As or the worst Bs merely for coming to school on alternate days. that's a bit overblown, but not that much. You should spend a week in a modern school. Or, no, you shouldn't -- that much psychic pain you shouldn't have to suffer at your age.