To: aladin who wrote (117517 ) 10/24/2003 12:32:40 AM From: marcos Respond to of 281500 'what would you propose we do? ' ... wake up the OAS for a start, turn it into a United Americanos sort of .... full open discussion on all matters, every nation invited to participate .... i'd like to see Canada do far more than it does in this hemisphere, get off its ass and somehow find a foreign minister of the calibre of Mike Pearson, only fluent in spanish In the case of Colombia, the major factor is massive demand, expressed in fantastic amounts of US dollars, for cocaine ..... answer - legalise it .... this will cut the mafiosos off at the knees, as the huge profits come about solely due to prohibition .... continuing to demand coke so forcefully with one hand, while whacking away with the Big Stick with the other, is not ever going to work There are no clean hands in Colombia, none, not among the players to date anyway, and there's been nothing resembling democracy since the forties [and even that was shakey, factional] .... beyond a sense of those facts, i don't know much recent history of the country ... the poster Charleymane does, or has had considerable interest at least, he started a thread for latinoamericanos issues one time, i was just looking for it, can't find it .... many articles there, quite extensive Short answer to your question - i don't know ... but i'm pretty sure the shoot first and ask questions later approach is not the way ... doesn't seem to have worked so far ..... you have to realise that the size and military might of the US combined with its historical grasping in these Americas sets it apart, there's no reason for an oderint dum metuant style of rule here though [as if it were useful anywhere], none of us attacks the US, a better style is to ask questions first and then think ..... first thing is, we've got to get together and talk, get things out in the open, out of the back rooms