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To: Win Smith who wrote (117549)	10/23/2003 11:53:35 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

The true believers won't be happy till the neocons remake the CIA in the image of DEBKA or something Let's see...the CIA missed the Chinese entry into Korea, was behind the Bay of Pigs, did not forsee the collapse of the Communism in Eastern Europe or the USSR itself; missed the rise of Al Qaeda and didn't take it seriously enough to infiltrate it. And of course, believed that Saddam had lots of WMD - but in that, they agreed with the British and French and German intelligence services, so at least they had company in their mistake. All I can say is, I sure hope they remake the CIA in the image of something functional, because their track record sucks. Nor has this been noticed only post 9/11, particularly if you've read Robert Baer.

To: Win Smith who wrote (117549)	10/24/2003 11:46:23 AM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The true believers won't be happy till the neocons remake the CIA in the image of DEBKA or something, where the spooks tell the hotheads just what they want to hear, regardless of conventional reality. Real good for the country that'll be. Who'd a thunk, the CIA is actually part of the liberal media conspiracy. Good grief. Why get so wound up about a statement suggesting that Plame's tennis partners have little to fear from anyone and that the Washington Pest was a bit over the top on the subject? As are the Tennis Ladies, who are probably thrilled to fantasize that they are big players in the Great Game. It's a long way from Ladies Who Shop and Lunch to a vast CIA left-wing conspiracy. But it's an amusing ride so thanks for the reply. C2@betterthanFabio.com