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To: LindyBill who wrote (13645)	10/24/2003 11:29:30 AM
From: DMaA	Respond to of 793591

Are they lazy, or is their attitude why bother? Not only is the Senate going to let them stay, they're going to force the states to subsidize their college education: U.S. Senate committee OKs migrant DREAM Act Sergio Bustos Gannett News Service Oct. 24, 2003 12:00 AM WASHINGTON - Tens of thousands of undocumented immigrant children could gain legal residency and become eligible for in-state college tuition under a bill approved Thursday by the Senate Judiciary Committee. The bill's approval by the committee was good news for four Phoenix students facing deportation to Mexico after running afoul of immigration authorities during a field trip last year. "This is a very exciting development," said Judy Flanagan, a Phoenix immigration lawyer who is representing the four students. "Without the DREAM Act there is very little that can be done for them." The Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors Act, now moves to the full Senate for a vote. The House has yet to act on a similar bill. If approved by Congress, President Bush has indicated he will sign the legislation into law. Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, insists the measure is necessary to help children whose parents put them in "a Catch-22 situation." "They did not make the initial decision to enter the United States illegally," said Hatch, who is co-sponsoring the measure with Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill. The four Phoenix students, Yuliana Huicochea, Oscar Corona, Jaime Damian and Luis Nava, have lived in the United States since they were children. They were on a field trip to compete in an international solar-powered boat competition near Buffalo, N.Y., when they drew the attention of immigration officials at the U.S-Canadian border. A group tried to enter Canada while on a sightseeing excursion. Flanagan said she hopes the Senate Judiciary Committee's approval of the DREAM Act will give the students leverage on Nov. 28, when they are scheduled to appear in front of an immigration judge for a hearing. Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., a Judiciary Committee member, was among 16 to vote in favor of the bill. He did not return calls for comment. Three committee members voted against it. Under the Senate bill, undocumented immigrants who complete two years of military service or two years of college within six years of graduating from high school could become legal residents. They also would have to prove that they had lived in the United States for at least five years and that they entered the country before age 16. The bill would repeal a federal law that bars states from charging in-state tuition rates to undocumented immigrants and would reduce their college costs. But those who do go on to college still would not be eligible for Pell grants, a popular source of financial aid. They also would be treated like foreign students by having to register with immigration authorities during the school year. Opponents say the measure could lead to a broader amnesty program for the country's estimated 9 million undocumented immigrants. azcentral.com

To: LindyBill who wrote (13645)	10/24/2003 2:31:10 PM
From: KLP	Respond to of 793591

Maybe the IRS and the INS should work together to send illegals back.......What gets me is that these IRS types could pick up 300 illegals anytime they wanted to drive a bus by the labor shapeups in my old area of Orange County. But they are too lazy to do it. They want the big media splash of going after Wal Mart.

To: LindyBill who wrote (13645)	10/24/2003 7:49:57 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793591

the problem is that the system we have basically covers the uninsured with emergency room services paid for by the states and local taxpayers. So for you or I to say "screw em, they have to take care of themselves"... doesn't really work. So then you are left with a bunch of minimum wage people working for Intel who can't afford any kind of health coverage, who should pay? It has to be either you and me, or Intel/Oracle etc. It cannot be the worker, because they are not compensated with the means to afford their own care. That is the entire reason Intel and Oracle engage in these practices. Oracle brings in workers on L1 visas, pays them room and board and $150/day into a foreign bank account. If they wanted to buy their own healthcare here, they probably couldn't. Enough is enough imho, these companies are robbing the counties and states blind. Workers like this are entirely subsidized by my taxes.