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To: Road Walker who wrote (176979)10/24/2003 11:04:13 AM
From: Jim McMannis  Respond to of 1575422
 
RE:"You know, this war wouldn't bother me quite as much if it were not a "credit card war". If the political leaders said "OK, this is what we want to do, this is why we want to do it, and it's going to cost each American $xxx this year in taxes to accomplish our goals". At least that would promote a healthy debate."

Chuckle...

Congress just gave themselves another pay raise and didn't ask us first and you expect them to ask us on the realy big stuff?

Yours' is a great idea though.

Jim



To: Road Walker who wrote (176979)10/24/2003 11:53:58 AM
From: Alighieri  Respond to of 1575422
 
You know, this war wouldn't bother me quite as much if it were not a "credit card war". If the political leaders said "OK, this is what we want to do, this is why we want to do it, and it's going to cost each American $xxx this year in taxes to accomplish our goals". At least that would promote a healthy debate.

John,

A debate is exactly the very thing the administration worked hard to avoid...if they had allowed a debate there'd be no war. Remember when the entire world was wondering why bush was so adamant to go to war immediately? Well, time was not on his side. Sept 11 was fresh in people's minds and giving inspectors time to to do their jobs meant risking a final report in which iraq would have been declared essentially WMD free. At the time the argument was that we could not leave the army in Kuwait through summer...of course we have had to leave them in iraq through summer, now fall, and they will be there for several more seasons to come....

Finally, anyone can make an argument that saddam was a bad man, and he ran a brutal regime. But the very people making that argument today in defense of this administration also severely criticized Clinton for taking action in Kosovo and Bosnia for the very same ideals. Only difference is Clinton did not concoct a tale to go save a people from milosevic. Go stare at a map of the world and tell me how many more wars we should fight to depose dictators who are equally as brutal as saddam. It's a lie...the story is years old, PNAC sent a letter to Clinton in 1998 urging him to invade Iraq and do the very thing they used 9/11 to do...the administration is as dishonest as any I can recall, in lifetime or historical account. Imagine bush in the hands of rumsfeld and cheney without the constraints of an open society and bicameral democracy, even one weakened by total republican control... scary isn't it?

Al



To: Road Walker who wrote (176979)10/24/2003 12:31:09 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1575422
 
JF, If the political leaders said "OK, this is what we want to do, this is why we want to do it, and it's going to cost each American $xxx this year in taxes to accomplish our goals". At least that would promote a healthy debate.

I like the part in boldface, especially since 96% of all taxes are paid by the upper half of wage earners, and the top 5% pay 53%.

I know, you're thinking, "Why have 'tax cuts for the rich' when we're financing a war on debt?" I just hope that in the midst of this healthy debate, people realize the government is only spending the money of half its constituents.

Tenchusatsu

P.S. - The median income reported by a couple or single is $28,528 in 2001. irs.ustreas.gov