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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (177007)	10/24/2003 7:47:17 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575176

You forgot... we are overcrowded now. Especially in urban areas. puts a big strain on certain social services * the US should be able to pick and choose who they let in so as to benefit the USA. (you did mention this)

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (177007)	10/25/2003 7:41:31 AM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1575176

Ten, Frankly, illegal immigration is not a red flag issue with me, and I haven't given it a lot of thought. The only thing that bugs me is that the folks that rally the hardest against immigration, well sometimes there seems to be a racist undertone to their arguments. It's not something that would be difficult to change, you simply impose a VERY severe penalty on anyone that hires an illegal, huge fines and maybe jail time for the owner of the business. End of problem, no incentive to cross the border if there is no money to be made. The tradeoff is of course that some goods and services get more expensive. Maybe imported oranges become less expensive than domestic oranges, and some of the groves go out of business. Then again, maybe some of the software guys that are losing their jobs to cheap Indian labor could fill the void? John

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (177007)	10/25/2003 3:25:09 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1575176

I'm all for immigration, obviously, but the way it is right now encourages lawbreakers and discrimination. Illegals go where they think they can get jobs. CA's huge illegal population tells you the quality of their law enforcement re hiring practices when it comes to illegals. As for the licensing issue......the complaints are akin to those that demand the barn doors must be reinforced AFTER the horses have already escaped. Licensing illegals is a good thing, not a bad thing. Once an illegal is in CA, its better to keep track of them rather then to totally ignore them. Licensing of illegals is not the problem. The truth is that there is a huge illegal population in CA, particularly southern CA, because they are an important part of the state's economy and employers are willing to break the law to hire them. CA's rapid growth the past 50 years is due in part to its cheap illegal labor force and Californians have become terribly addicted to growth. When I lived in CA, every few years there would be a big brouhaha re. illegals and border crossings would be beefed up with new INS agents. It took me a while to realize that whole thing was a scam. There was no intention of slowing the flow of illegals into CA......the brouhaha was all for show. ted