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Politics : HOWARD DEAN -THE NEXT PRESIDENT? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Eashoa' M'sheekha who wrote (308)	10/25/2003 2:18:20 PM
From: Eashoa' M'sheekha	Respond to of 3079

Dem Dean's Rock Solid In Granite State zogby.com Democratic front-runner Howard Dean has zoomed into a "juggernaut" lead in the key presidential primary state of New Hampshire while retired Gen. Wesley Clark's support has sagged into single digits, a new poll shows. Dean is at 40 percent - more than double Sen. John Kerry (Mass.) who is second at 17, followed by Clark and Sen. John Edwards (D-N.C.) tied for third at 6 percent each in the Zogby International poll. Trailing are Rep. Dick Gephardt (Mo.) at 4 percent and Sen. Joe Lieberman (Conn.) at 3 while Al Sharpton got less than 1 percent in the poll of likely Democratic primary voters conducted Tuesday through Thursday with an error margin of 4.5 percentage points. The survey sets the stage for tomorrow night's Democrat debate in Detroit on the Fox News Channel - though Democrats fear no one will watch if the Yankees win tonight and there's a seventh game in the World Series. The debate and Game 7 are both scheduled for 8 p.m. Several prior polls put Clark at 10 or 11 percent and clearly in third in New Hampshire, but this survey suggests "The General" has fizzled in the wake of Iraq flip-flops and the revelation that he praised President Bush and voted for Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. "Clark's fizzle is the key to these numbers. Clark was hurting Dean. Now Clark has just collapsed and the direct beneficiary is Dean," said pollster John Zogby. "Dean is a juggernaut because he's at 40 percent in a nine-person race with no one else even close. He has clearly bonded with New Hampshire Democrats. The breadth and depth of his support is breathtaking." The poll suggests Team Dean's strategy has paid off. Their approach was to praise Clark as a "good guy," but question his Democratic credentials on the theory that Clark backers favor an outsider and could switch to Dean as long as Dean didn't alienate them. The poll suggests it will be hard to shake Dean because New Hampshire Democrats have such a positive view of the former Vermont governor - 77 percent positive and just 11 percent negative. Clark is rated 38 percent positive and 23 percent negative. The first Democratic presidential test comes in the Jan. 19 Iowa caucuses, which Clark will skip. The New Hampshire primary follows on Jan. 27. In Iowa, Gephardt - with strong labor support - is tied or perhaps a tad ahead of Dean. Zogby suggested that if Gephardt wins Iowa, he could actually emerge as Dean's chief rival despite his current low showing in New Hampshire. * Long-shot Democratic 2004 presidential candidate Rep. Dennis Kucinich yesterday demanded that New Hampshire TV stations stop running Howard Dean ads that blast other Democrats over Iraq. Dean's ads stress that he opposed the Iraq war and add: "The best my opponents can do is ask questions today that they should have asked before they supported the war." Kucinich (D-Ohio) angrily objected and demanded an apology, noting that he's the only Democrat in the race who actually voted against last fall's resolution authorizing the war. Dean spokesman Jay Carson contended the ad is only directed at "those opponents whose positions are as stated in the ad" - although the ad's wording seems to cover all Dean's rivals. (10/25/2003) - By Deborah Orin, The New York Post

To: Eashoa' M'sheekha who wrote (308)	10/25/2003 8:03:43 PM
From: Mephisto	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 3079

I am astonished! Howard is incredible! I am surprised by the numbers because the press has gone out of its way to put Howard Dean on the back burner! For instance, the Republican commentator David Brooks wrote about the Democrats for the NYTimes recently. In a couple of columns Brooks talks about Gephardt, and he called Gephardt brave because Gep voted for Bush's 87 billion proposal for Iraq reconstruction. I imagine Brooks is one of Bush's favorite Republican commentators. Certainly, Gephardt is Bush's best trained Democratic parrot in the US Congress. B4 Bush started the Iraq war, I listened to a dialog between Brooks and Mark Shields on the Jim Lehrer News Hour. I heard Brooks say what a cordial relationship Gephardt had with Bush, and Gephardt supported Bush's Iraq war. Still, I'm surprised at the NYTimes. They hire a Republican to present the Democrats in an article called, The Good, the Bad, the Ugly. In that particular article, Brooks sounded so angry I thought he'd burst. Is the NY Times so hard up that it must hire a bully? “Clark’s candidacy is starting to fizzle,” said Zogby, “and Kerry simply is not connecting.” I also think Clark's bubbles have burst. I've heard Clark wants people to volunteer for this or that. I wonder how long it would be b4 Clark started the old draft. Generals like war. Wars make them famous. Does anyone honestly believe old Wes would give up his wars if he were elected President? I don't. I don't want an old war horse in the White House either.