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To: Ilaine who wrote (13957)10/26/2003 4:51:42 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 794411
 
several profoundly retarded people

First people Hitler got rid of. With the help of Academia, who were wrapped up in "Eugenics" then. Academia is still in the lead. Peter Singer is leading the way here. What is with Princeton?
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A Professor Of Infanticide At Princeton
by Nat Hentoff 9/13/99

Last year, while I was teaching at Princeton University on the politics of journalism, a lot of class time was devoted to a debate on the appointment of Princeton's very first full-time tenured professor of bioethics, Peter Singer.

An Australian, Singer was a principal founder of the animal-liberation movement and is a former president of the International Association of Bioethics. What led to our discussion in class -- and to various protests outside the university against his appointment, which starts this month -- is that he is also an advocate of infanticide. Not of any infant, but of severely disabled infants.

In class, nearly all of us agreed that in a university, a credentialed scholar should not be banned, no matter how controversial his views.

But some of us wondered why Princeton chose this renowned apostle of infanticide and certain forms of euthanasia for so influential an endowed seat at, of all places, the university's Center for Human Values.

Professor Singer often claims that his views have been misquoted, so I am quoting directly from his books.

From "Practical Ethics": "Human babies are not born self-aware, or capable of grasping that they exist over time. They are not persons." But animals are self-aware, and therefore, "the life of a newborn is of less value than the life of a pig, a dog, or a chimpanzee."

Accordingly, from "Should the Baby Live?": "It does not seem wise to add to the burden on limited resources by increasing the number of severely disabled children."

Also in that book, Singer and his colleague, Helga Kuhse, suggested that "a period of 28 days after birth might be allowed before an infant is accepted as having the same right to live as others."

In the second edition of "Practical Ethics," Singer makes clear that the parents, together with their physicians, have the right to decide whether "the infant's life will be so miserable or so devoid of minimal satisfaction that it would be inhumane or futile to prolong life."

As an example, he speaks of severe forms of spina bifida, which, he says "can affect as many as one in 500 live births." He adds Down's syndrome, which is also not rare. Parents, by disposing of such infants, may still have a chance to have "another pregnancy, which has a good chance of being normal."

Singer has been influenced by Jeremy Bentham (1748-1832), the founder of modern utilitarianism. He held that the foundation of morals and legislation should be, as Singer explains him, "to maximize pleasure or happiness and minimize pain or unhappiness." Once killed, the disabled infant will be freed of pain. As an Australian, however, Singer may not be fully aware that in this country, he is advocating the commission of a crime.

Not that Singer himself has ever killed an infant, but he is telling his students to cast aside a point that Justice Harry Blackmun took great pains to make in his majority opinion in Roe vs. Wade:

"The word, `person,' as used in the 14th Amendment, does not include the unborn." But once born, there is indeed a person under the Constitution whose "right to life," Blackmun agreed, "would then be guaranteed specifically by the Amendment."

Singer does not focus only on preventing disabled infants from being miserable. As for euthanasia at any age, he writes in "Practical Ethics" (second edition): "If there is no intrinsic difference between killing and allowing to die, active euthanasia (performed by a physician) should also be accepted as humane and proper under certain circumstances."

But that person, he makes clear, must want to be euthanized. Unless the patient lacks "the capacity to understand the choice between continued existence or non-existence," killing is appropriate.

In "Practical Ethics," Singer disputes Dr. Leo Alexander, who was an expert witness at the Nuremberg trials and later wrote that the crimes of the Nazis, before the gas chambers, "started from small beginnings" -- the acceptance that "there is such a thing as life not worthy to be lived." Singer believes Dr. Alexander misses the utilitarian point.

Princeton's Singer, by no means a Nazi -- three of his grandparents died in concentration camps -- does believe that some lives are not worth living.

But Dr. Leo Alexander's warning is ever more pertinent as legal assisted suicide, euthanasia and eugenics are gaining support from decent people who assume the practical-ethics right to judge others' quality of life.

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To: Ilaine who wrote (13957)10/26/2003 4:58:50 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 794411
 
I think you read more into my question about paying for the folks we keep alive than I intended. I just asked a question given that Terri's situation involved money. There was the settlement money intended to support her. Then there is the nursing home that is providing service gratis someone is paying for. Then there are the parents, who would keep her at home, I think, and there would be costs to them of doing that. I was just trying to sort through whether the state should pick up the tab now or when those resources run out or never or what. And whether changing the rules in mid-stream suggested any compensation from the state.

Just think how much money it would save if we could kill grandma once she gets senile and will never recover.

There is a range of factors to consider and approaches to take. Letting someone die is not the same as killing them. Helping someone commit suicide is not the same as killing them. Pulling the plug on people who can't breathe or eat on their own is not the same as killing someone who has AIDS and will be costly to maintain. We need to take care to respect those who want to die and those who want to live. I think the present situation does that. I think your variation on it would do that, too, perhaps better. But no one's talking about killing granny because she's senile.

BTW, I have an advance directive, a medical power of attorney, and long term care insurance. What we need most, IMO, is a campaign to get everyone on board with those things.