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To: elmatador who wrote (40239)	10/26/2003 7:21:21 PM
From: pezz	Respond to of 74559

<<Mexicans moving OUT of Mexico is desirable then, right? >> LOL They are doubling their population every 30 years. They cannot hope to support this increase without terrible damage to their environment. Thus from the standpoint of a Mexican citizen of course, get rid of 'em anyway they can. But.... As you know I am not a Mexican citizen but an American citizen. Thus from this standpoint for the same reasons that they don't want this population increase to remain there I don't want them exporting it here.,,,Capeesh? As a citizen of the world I have the same concerns that any thinking world citizen would.Stop increasing your population if you can't support'em. ...That's not so hard to understand ...is it?

To: elmatador who wrote (40239)	10/26/2003 9:45:20 PM
From: TobagoJack	Respond to of 74559

Hello Elmat, The sale of residency has moved forward a notch. Now anyone with HKD 6.5 mm (USD 833k) to invest in a business, blue chip index fund, or apartment in Hong Kong for 5 years can obtain HK residency. The value must be topped up if falls under HKD 6.5 mm upon appliaction in 5 year's time. Hong Kong's attractions? Freedom, 15.5% tax on domestic-sourced active income, 0%tax on offshore-sourced active income, and no taxes on domestic/offshore capital gains, dividend and interest income. Chugs, Jay

To: elmatador who wrote (40239)	10/27/2003 12:24:05 AM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Hello Elmat, I correct my earlier post Message 19436628 on the subject of HK immigration after checking: Actually the deal immd.gov.hk is better than I described. A pretty decent scheme for a territory of the 'next super power' sporting English Common Law, English language, best infrastructure in the world, small government, and a international financial center boasting full facilities: - immediately enjoy what all HK ID holders (for self, wife and kids) enjoy, America's Heritage Foundation certified 'mostest' freedom in the world, and individual sovereignty on 'no taxes on cap-gain, interest, dividend and world-wide active/passive income basis; - let me not forget the socialize health care :0) - invest HKD 6.5 mm money via HK-based capital account in HKD certificate of deposits, rental real estate, business, or equities (Equities - shares of companies that are listed on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange and traded in Hong Kong dollars, including global bank HSBC finance.yahoo.com , HK-listed China shares, and tech stocks Microsoft finance.yahoo.com , Intel finance.yahoo.com , Amgen finance.yahoo.com , Dell finance.yahoo.com , and Cisco finance.yahoo.com :0) - I am not sure if paper gold embedded in wrap accounts qualify. - immediately get HK ID for 2-year renewable residency (just do not break the criminal code in HK); - there is no patriotism requirement given that our relevant proposed laws do not seem to be able to get passage; - manage all accounts in person or via Internet; - do not have to be around HK (no physical presence except one visit per year); - do not have to top-up if loss; - after 7 years, get HK Right of Abode (permanent residency) with no additional obligations; and - by year 2047, the papers automatically convert to permanent residency in all of China Chugs, Jay