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Pastimes : Prophecy -- HYPE or HOPE? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (2322)10/29/2003 1:12:21 AM
From: Cyprian  Respond to of 5569
 
Before Jesus shed His blood, then died, then was raised again there was no forgiveness for sins in Jesus

read my post a couple back or go read psalm 51. david seems to say otherwise. if you need help recognizing Jesus in the old testament, i would be glad to help point out some of the THOUSANDS of references to him, starting with the very first verse in the bible, which is speaking of Jesus.

psalm 130 clearly speaks of forgiveness by Jesus as well.

130:1 Out of the depths have I cried unto thee, O LORD.
130:2 Lord, hear my voice: let thine ears be attentive to the voice of my supplications.
130:3 If thou, LORD, shouldest mark iniquities, O Lord, who shall stand?
130:4 But there is forgiveness with thee, that thou mayest be feared.
130:5 I wait for the LORD, my soul doth wait, and in his word do I hope.
130:6 My soul waiteth for the Lord more than they that watch for the morning: I say, more than they that watch for the morning.
130:7 Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.



To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (2322)10/29/2003 2:02:07 AM
From: Cyprian  Respond to of 5569
 
Hebrews

10:38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
10:39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

kinda sounds like we can draw back unto perdition if we lack faith, just like judas, who was called son of perdition. but if you continue to believe (notice it is not referring to works but faith) your soul will be saved.