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To: LindyBill who wrote (14340)	10/29/2003 11:15:40 PM
From: Sam	Respond to of 793717

The debacle could have been avoided. The clash with the IGC was entirely predictable. The fact that Washington seems to have been taken by surprise by the vehemence of the Iraqis’ opposition suggests that the US should spend more time evaluating the realities on the ground, instead of trying to bend them to fit a view of reality that exists only in the optimistic imaginations of Beltway policymakers. I couldn't believe not only that we pushed Turkey to send troops, we bribed them to send troops, and we expected the Iraqis to be happy about it! Surely this incident alone should make supporters of this administration just a little skeptical about whether the people over there have even a little clue about what the Iraqis are about, and what is really going on in Iraq. They couldn't even figure out a simple thing like this, but they somehow expect people to believe them about other things?

To: LindyBill who wrote (14340)	10/30/2003 7:59:38 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793717

I couldn't believe this when we did it. Neither could I. Still can’t. Just as things start to go right, fate intervenes to screw it up. Fate had nothing to do with it. Stupidity is what intervened. Particularly thorny is a demand by the Turkish military that all its troops must travel and be supplied overland, and that Turkish forces will be responsible for the security of the route. In other words, the Turks want to establish a military presence in the north. No wonder the IGC isn’t interested. How long do you figure it would take for the Turks and the Kurds to get into it? I can’t believe they are still talking about bringing Pakistani troops. Is anybody there thinking at all?