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To: Wayners who wrote (483167)	10/29/2003 9:44:30 AM
From: Kenneth E. Phillipps	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769670

Guns were not banned in Iraq either. In fact, Saddam Hussein passed out guns to everybody before the invasion. We see the result.

To: Wayners who wrote (483167)	10/29/2003 10:33:00 AM
From: DavesM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Indeed, the violent crime rate in the United States are very near 30 year lows. The past few years, have shown both an increase in the poverty rate, and a decrease in the rate of violent crime.

To: Wayners who wrote (483167)	10/29/2003 3:00:05 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769670

All Guns are banned in Britain I don't trust your observations without some sources. Certainly your beginning premise is false. guardian.co.uk <font color=brown>The following correction was printed in The Observer's For The Record column, Sunday October 26 2003 This article said: 'Some 125,000 firearm licences were issued last year.' We should clarify that the figure referred to the year 2000 and reflected the total number of firearms certificates in existence in England and Wales that year, not the number of new certificates. This was actually a decrease of 5 per cent on 1999. The total for 2001 was 119,560, a similar decrease.</font> <font color=navy>The official figures show that there were 10,250 firearms offences in the 12 months to March 2003, a 3% rise over the year compared with a 35% increase the previous year. </font> guardian.co.uk The figures for firearm offenses in Britain, which I presume includes a wide variety of crimes some of which resulted in gun seizures and some where the criminal got away, are dwarfed by the figures of seizures for any significant American city. <font color=blue>Again in 1996, Chicago Police led the nation's cities in the number of illegal firearms seized. The 15,141 guns recovered in Chicago last year outpaced the number of guns seized in New York (12,188), Los Angeles (10,091), and every other jurisdiction in the United States. </font>. At best you are presenting some kind of <font color=maroon>apples</font> to <font color=orange> oranges</font> comparison. TP