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Politics : Sharks in the Septic Tank -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (78456)	10/29/2003 12:05:35 PM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 82486

I take your point, but keep in mind that while our war against Japan was, given the attack on Pearl Harbor, arguably a defensive war, our declaring war also against Germany and sending troops to fight in Europe was entirely a war to liberate a previously free country from a brutal dictator. A war of liberation. Hmmm, sound familiar? If we had had the liberal media beaming live shots of our soldiers in combat for four years trying to reclaim France and dying by the hundreds, with nightly carping and focus on death after death after death, do you really think we would have hung in there? No way of knowing for sure, of course, but take out Walter Winchell and slide in Christine Anapour, take out Walter Cronkite and insert Dan Rather, and would our resolve have held through photo after photo after photo of tens of thousands of body bags and military burials? Maybe we were a different country then. But maybe not all that different. against a puny enemy There was nothing puny about the Iraqi military. They were the largest and one of the best trained and equipped fighting forces in the Middle East, and had proved in combat their willingness to use illegal weapons. The apparent ease of our victory was a result of very high quality training, planning, logistics, and equipment, not of a "puny" enemy. And as to the ongoing problems, there is nothing puny about anyone who can easily get hold of rocket propelled grenades and high explosives.

To: Lane3 who wrote (78456)	10/29/2003 10:44:14 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 82486

I suspect they will be dying in more than onesies and twosies soon. I hope I'm wrong, of course. This little war was not as questionable as it should have been at the top levels of our government. It was only questionable to people who knew something about the region, and to people who had some worries about the precedents this war would set in terms of international law, and in terms of the credibility and reputation of the US abroad. While we had much good will after 9/11, we have squandered it needlessly, imo- this was a very foolish expenditure of goodwill. We are already reaping the rewards of our foolishness, and there will be more reaping before the reaping is done.