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Politics : WHO IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT IN 2004 -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Glenn Petersen who wrote (5970)	10/30/2003 11:42:46 AM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10965

Another Bushie for Howard Dean. Good for you. Show your stripes.

To: Glenn Petersen who wrote (5970)	10/30/2003 8:20:31 PM
From: Raymond Duray	Respond to of 10965

OUTTING FRANK LUNTZ, THE GOP'S MASTER DISSEMBLER Glenn, Re: AS is a pretty good barometer here. He mentions it at least five or six times a day. LOL! I'm on a campaign to get myself from responding to personalities instead of policy. But you've got a point. <gg> AS may be at the vanguard of the Democratic imitation of the extremely successful efforts by the Bushies to smother the public in endless repetition. The difference being that the Bushies have a malevolent end in mind for the American public, while John Kerry simply wants to continue milking them as an aphid crop. <g> On a more serious note, and as the worm turns, Al Gore may be the best apple in the Dem's barrel, if we are to believe the words of the GOP's malevolent pollster, Frank Luntz, on the Bushies' vulnerabilities. Here's something to start the conversation on how completely cynical the GOP has become. More to follow..... ***** rep.org Green Talk, Brown Walk Clearly, it wasn't intended for public consumption. It was leaked. Hooray for the leaker! Republican strategists are finally acknowledging that despite a few good initiatives-like the EPA's new non-road diesel rules-our party is mostly on the wrong side of environmental issues in the public eye. As GOP pollster Frank Luntz wrote in his secret "Straight Talk" memo, the environment is the single biggest vulnerability for the Republicans and especially for George W. Bush. That realization is the good news. The bad news is that Luntz-the creator of 1994's famous Contract with America-doesn't recommend that the GOP do anything other than "sound better" on environmental issues. His memo makes no recommendation that party honchos actually behave better. He just teaches them how not to scare the voters so much. Luntz's effort harkens back to the heyday of the "Gingrich Revolution," when hard-talking congressional "revolutionaries" frightened the public so much that dozens of them were booted out of office. Luntz obviously wants to teach the new crop of GOP leaders not to make that mistake again. This would all be well and good if GOP officialdom were to take its bad reputation as a warning to change the party's ways. It's not acceptable merely to seek ways to look better. REP members and Green Elephant readers who would like to check out the memo for themselves will find it -plus a lot of other Luntz-related info-at the following nifty web site: luntzspeak.com